Something they didn’t expect

Backlash against a proposed Indian law criminalizing marital rape.

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The western nooz media is notorious about omitting important news from around the world. So I wouldn’t blame readers at all if they haven’t heard the news in India about a proposed law to criminalize marital rape.

A little background. Over the past decade, there have been a number of gang rapes in India, some characterized by horrific brutality, violent torture, and death. Many such cases are related to human trafficking. In January 2022, a three-member panel called The Verma Committee was appointed to investigate the aftermath of the most recent Delhi gang-rape. In conclusion, they proposed stronger laws to punish heinous acts of sexual violence.

Overall, India is a very conservative and patriarchal society, but there has been a strong surge of feminism within the last decade or so. Seeing the public outrage over the rapes as a window of opportunity, in January 2022, two women’s rights organizations filed a petition with the New Delhi’s High Court seeking to criminalize marital rape in India. They wanted to strike down a legal “loophole” in the Indian penal code which stipulates that intercourse between a husband and wife over the age of 15 cannot be considered as rape. In effect, they want to open the floodgates for husbands to be accused of marital rape by their wives, including those who are frigid, and/or indignantly rebellious.

According to The Male Factor, if this law passes, then husbands can be accused of rape, even without any sexual interaction with the wife, or even after getting raped by the wife, based only on her verbal admission.

As such, this petition has instantly polarized Indian society into Traditionalists vs. Feminists. Men are naturally interpreting this as an attack on men’s rights. Some men have gone as far as to stage marriage strikes to protest against this proposed law.

Indian men protest proposed law criminalizing marital rape.

It appears that Indian women are wholly taken by surprise by their husband’s desire, as if they never suspected that regular sexual intercourse would ever be required of them in marriage.

Outside of this explanation, it just doesn’t make any sense until you know that 70% of Indian women can climax as many as 20 times in a single session! Golly glad G spots! Entertaining the hubby must be thoroughly exhausting! Now that would earn a tadpole’s waggle of my heartfelt sympathies.

But of course, the usual feminist response to their being put upon in the marriage bed has only one logical explanation – that men must have changed over the last 20 years! Men of the 21st century are lascivious, lecherous horndogs who care more about procreation than their wives’ cumfort zones!

I can imagine that Indian women are now reminiscing about the “good old days of the 1950s” in which men wore turbans and carried daggers and kukri knives around the market square.

Well, Indian wives didn’t have to wait very long for machismo to return. TMF writes,

“#MarriageStrike started trending in India and continued to trend for several days and often was in the top ten Indian trends and continue to remain the most interesting trend as this article is written.”

Those who are fighting to prevent the marital rape law from passing know that if this law passes, then there will be a grandiose marriage strike across the subcontinent, not from wives who don’t want to be put upon in the marriage bed, but from husbands who will be routinely defrauded as a common matter of legal jurisprudence.

Update

In mid March, 2022, Indian parliamentarians rejected the proposals to criminalize marital rape. In a report delivered to the parliament in March, a panel of lawmakers said the proposed marital rape law “has the potential of destroying the institution of marriage”, adding that “if marital rape is brought under the law, the entire family system will be under great stress.” Further protections granted to horndog husbands were further solidified this month when a Delhi court ruled that intercourse between a husband and wife “even if forcible, is not rape.”

Meme image is of Hindus gathering to perform the controversial Gadhimai festival sacrifice.

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25 Responses to Something they didn’t expect

  1. Red Pill Apostle says:

    Can y’all imagine if Indian men pushed for a law where all unapproved spending by the wife was theft, and the husband got to determine what was “approved” even after the fact?

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    • Elspeth says:

      This reminds me of when a few weeks ago, I snarkily said to my husband, “Oh my gosh. You have to get your own underwear out this morning!” And he replied:

      “What if I decide that, ‘Oh well, you have to get out there and make your own money today.’ How would you like that?”

      It was equal parts stinging, funny, and true. There’s really no parallel in our current culture where wives are held to any kind of standard of responsibility to their men. At all.

      I see “marital rape” much in the same way as I view “hate crimes”. Bogus.

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      • thedeti says:

        Sure, funny when SAM says it.

        When a bottom 80% man says it, he better go find a divorce lawyer.

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      • Red Pill Apostle says:

        deti – How you say it matters. It really is all in the delivery and how seriously you take yourself.

        Then again, if a guy cares less about her response than he does stating the truth, and can pull off the rebuke in a carefree manner with some humor, he’s probably not bottom 80.

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      • Oscar says:

        “When a bottom 80% man says it, he better go find a divorce lawyer.”

        Then he’d better call her bluff, say it, and get it over with, one way or the other.

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      • Red Pill Apostle says:

        “Then he’d better call her bluff, say it, and get it over with, one way or the other.”

        100% true Oscar. The caveat is that if he’s the type of man unwilling to put up with her shenanigans and is willing to take the risk that she’ll frivorce him, he’s probably not bottom 80.

        One of the odd truths that popped up these past couple years for me is that there are actions men must be willing to take to restore order in marriage that will put the marriage at risk. But the willingness to take on the risk and follow through with the implications reduces the probability the marriage will fail. One the big ones for me was laying out the biblical roles for husbands and wives and setting the expectation that they would be followed to the best of our ability.

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      • Jack says:

        “…if a guy cares less about her response than he does stating the truth, and can pull off the rebuke in a carefree manner with some humor, he’s probably not bottom 80.”

        Yeah, this is detachment, defending Frame, and DHV, all in one. The remarkable thing about this is that when a man responds this way, he’s turning the tables on her and shifting the relationship structure towards Headship. As Oscar, RPA and I described before, some women love this and respond positively, and other women hate it and blow up the marriage.

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      • Oscar says:

        @ RPA,

        Not only that, but the longer he waits, the angrier, and more frustrated he becomes, the more likely he’ll be to play into her hands by blowing up into an emotional display. Bad news doesn’t get better with time.

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      • Oscar says:

        By the way, there’s a third option. She decides to stay (“for the kids”, or whatever), but it turns into a zombie marriage. Yeah, I know, nobody believes me. But it does happen.

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      • Jack says:

        “…there’s a third option. She decides to stay (“for the kids”, or whatever), but it turns into a zombie marriage. Yeah, I know, nobody believes me. But it does happen.”

        Yeah, I know of zombie marriages. Nobody talk to each other, except about shared material necessities. No emotions are expressed, except anger now and then. No feelings are shared. No joy. No one ever wants to come visit. I’m thinking of my parent’s marriage here.

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      • Red Pill Apostle says:

        “By the way, there’s a third option. She decides to stay (“for the kids”, or whatever), but it turns into a zombie marriage. Yeah, I know, nobody believes me. But it does happen.”

        I have lived this for a couple years back in the day. It’s a “roommates with benefits 3x a year” situation. Mostly it’s a husband keeping to himself because then the anger doesn’t leak out and a wife feeling justified about her celibacy because her husband is [she fills in the blank reason he’s the worst man in the history of FOREVER].

        Side note, I much prefer being a sexually generous team that loves each other and enjoys each other’s company.

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  2. thedeti says:

    Proof that men are men and women are women wherever you go. Feminism is not a purely Western thing. It’s a class and economics thing. Feminism’s great when there’s plenty of money to pay for it.

    Whether or not “marital rape” occurs is directly related to how sexually attracted the woman is to her husband. When you’re not attracted to the man, all sex with him is “rape” because it feels like rape. Women actually say this: Sex with a man you’re not attracted to feels like rape.

    To women, there are no real, functional differences between…

    “It feels like you raped me.”

    and

    “You raped me.”

    What married women are saying here is that the sex they’re having with their husbands, though fully consensual, feels like rape, and therefore IS rape, because of lack of sexual attraction. They’re not being raped, but it feels to them like they are, so they were being raped. Because to women, feelings are reality. Her feelings define her, and define her reality.

    This is why American society is where it is now — because we have codified our feelings into law. What makes us feel good is good, legal, and encouraged. What feels bad is evil, illegal, and punished.

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    • Red Pill Apostle says:

      deti,

      “This is why American society is where it is now – because we have codified our feelings into law. What makes us feel good is good, legal, and encouraged. What feels bad is evil, illegal, and punished.”

      Our pastor hit on the very topic of how the church has failed families and families have failed children for roughly the past two generations to correctly teach that people’s feelings do not determine truth. This was one detail as part of a larger point of how we collectively have farmed out teaching our children to societal institutions with disastrous effects. While he did not use the term, he accurately described churchianity. Changing to a feelings based system of laws is a foregone conclusion once people become unmoored from truth.

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  3. Scott says:

    “Then he’d better call her bluff, say it, and get it over with, one way or the other.”

    This is essentially the Dalrock position. “Are you going to use that [detonator] or are you going to make me a sandwhich?”

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  4. Rock Kitaro says:

    I can’t help but think, “hostage situation”. In the US, a wife can divorce you just because she’s “not happy” and take half your things, force you to pay child support, and alimony. So the joke of “happy wife, happy life” becomes a scary thought, akin to a hostage situation. Where if you don’t do what the other person wants, they can destroy you.

    Same here. Even before this law, I saw a documentary on Netflix about something similar. I believe it was “Martyrs of Marriage,” where Section 498A of the law was/is being overly abused. Essentially, the woman can get the husband and his family arrested by accusing them of harassment. It was definitely eye-opening.

    Also… I can’t help but think it perverts God’s order. I know India is not a predominantly Christian nation, but when the wife has this much power to the point that a husband can feel like he’s on pins and needles trying to keep her happy just to keep from getting arrested… man…

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    • redpillboomer says:

      “I can’t help but think, “hostage situation”. In the US, a wife can divorce you just because she’s “not happy” and take half your things, force you to pay child support, and alimony. So the joke of “happy wife, happy life” becomes a scary thought, akin to a hostage situation. Where if you don’t do what the other person wants, they can destroy you.”

      I know a 36 year old man in this situation right now with his 35 year old wife. I posted here about it recently. In talking with him, the surface level fears/concerns are for his family, his children. The underlying fear I suspect is fear of financial devastation if she leaves. He’s an Air Force Officer and they’ve been married ten years, so I think she gets half of his pension now along with child support and alimony.

      Interestingly, I remember when they hit the ten year mark in their marriage, the wife saying something along the lines of, “Well, now he can’t leave me.” It sounded like her fears were being allayed. The more I’ve thought about it, especially in light of their recent marital struggles, I think what was actually being communicated underneath the surface level words was something like, “Now, I can get half of EVERYTHING — Pension being the last item I needed access to — if and when I ever decide to leave him.”

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      • Oscar says:

        “I think what was actually being communicated underneath the surface level words was something like, “Now, I can get half of EVERYTHING — Pension being the last item I needed access to — if and when I ever decide to leave him.”

        That’s exactly what she meant. That’s what I said the first time you told us this story. 10 years is the magic number in the military.

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      • Red Pill Apostle says:

        “I remember when they hit the ten year mark in their marriage, the wife saying something along the lines of, “Well, now he can’t leave me.”

        “Now he can’t leave me” can be interpreted as “I have him by his most sensitive places and if he missteps, I’ll SQUEEZE!” The telling part of her comment is that she is thinking about the end of the marriage. Even if this is based in uncertainty on her part, it shows she understands the financial aspect of the relationship and the power the courts give her in this arena.

        It gets worse the longer the officer lets his headship be usurped, and the harder the remedy becomes. Now is the time fix things. If he is submissive (afraid of her), the chance she’ll not be attracted to him and blow up the marriage down the road increases exponentially. If he pushes the marriage towards headship now she’ll either blow it up or submit. If she blows it up now it’s less costly than if she does so later. If she submits, he will have a marriage that will be unrecognizable (in a good way) to what he has now.

        The guy’s choices are all hard and all come with tough risks. The least worst choice is to bring his marital authority situation to a head now.

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      • anonymous_ng says:

        He can decide to eject from the USAF and then, no pension, and that prize is off the table.

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  5. redpillboomer says:

    “In mid March, 2022, Indian parliamentarians rejected the proposals to criminalize marital rape.”

    Had this gone through, I’m guessing within a generation Indian men would end up going MGTOW and Indian women would be all over social media wondering, “Where have all the good men gone?”

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  6. Oscar says:

    Off Topic: Fitness is Fascist

    Daily Caller: MSNBC Op-Ed Roasted For Claiming Fitness Is ‘Central’ To Fascism (2022-3-23)

    “Cynthia Miller-Idriss, a professor at American University studying polarization and extremism, wrote that the far-right has taken advantage of the pandemic trend of at-home fitness to further expand its radicalization efforts. She cited research on alleged “fascist fitness” chats where young men are lured into communities to discuss fitness only to be inundated with fascist messaging later on.

    “Physical fitness has always been central to the far right. In ‘Mein Kampf,’ Hitler fixated on boxing and jujitsu,” Miller-Idriss wrote.

    Jujitsu? Well, crap. I guess that makes me a Nazi.

    “The intersection of extremism and fitness leans into a shared obsession with the male body, training, masculinity, testosterone, strength and competition.”

    “She also said fitness appeals to right-wing extremists for many reasons, including embracing solidarity, heroism and brotherhood.”

    We know that — according to the APA — traditional masculinity is “marked by stoicism, competitiveness, dominance and aggression”, and that it’s supposedly bad for us, so I guess this means that the political right wing is traditionally masculine.

    American Psychological Association: APA issues first-ever guidelines for practice with men and boys (2019-1-15)

    I doubt this will have the effect that the Lefties at MSNBC wanted.

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    • redpillboomer says:

      Lol! Well, I guess count me in as a Nazi then too. I go to my gym regularly to workout. Haven’t run into any extremism that I’m aware of, but hey, you never know. Plenty of toxic males running around in there, so there may be something going on extremism-wise at the sub-communications level.

      The only extremism I’ve actually noticed is the women’s extremely tight fitting workout clothes, aka ‘nude while dressed’ attire. No complaints so far from the toxic males about Stacy and Amber’s level of extremism. All of us just keep to ourselves, work hard and enjoy our extreme eye candy!

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  7. Oscar says:

    Off Topic: The Mother Instinct Drives Childless Women Crazy

    Verve Times: Experience: I Let A Baby Bird Nest In My Hair For 84 Days | Birds (2022-3-25)

    “In 2013, my husband, Robin, took a new job in Ghana. We relocated from London, where I worked as a photographer and copywriter, to the capital, Accra. We then moved to the grasslands, where guinea grass swayed 11 ft. tall. Home was a thatched bungalow beside the Volta River. I had loved nature since childhood, when my dad taught me about birds and animals. I photographed horses professionally and considered the outdoors the place where I felt most alive. So when we arrived on the plains, I felt relief.

    Robin worked, but my visa didn’t permit me to, and I was left isolated, homesick and lacking purpose.”

    Well, golly-gee-freakin’-whiz! Whatever is a married woman to do with her time with no job outside the home? It’s a mystery!

    “In September 2018…”

    Note that she’s five years into this adventure. What in the world could a married woman with no job outside the home have done with those five years? It’s a conundrum!

    “…the rainy season was in full flow. After one particularly bad thunderstorm, I found a fledgling – a bronze-winged mannikin finch – barely a month old, on the ground. He was abandoned by his flock, his nest blown from the mango tree. His eyes were tightly shut and he was shuddering, too young to survive alone. He was the size of my little finger, with feathers the colour of Rich Tea biscuits, inky eyes and a small bill like a pencil lead. I placed him in a cardboard box with tea towels, mimicking a nest, and stayed up all night, researching how to care for him. I spoke to an expert who said it would take 12 weeks to prepare him for the wild.

    The next day, he woke with his mouth open and a shrill hunger call. I fed him termites and, instinctively, chirped at him. He chirped back and clambered into my hand, digging in his beak and head, then fell asleep in my palm. As far as he was concerned, I was his mother.”

    And, there it is. Most women are going to mother something. If it’s not their own children, it’ll be something else, like a pet, or refugees, or some other politically fashionable victim group.

    “For the next 84 days, the fledgling lived on me. We became inseparable.”
    …….
    “Each day, he made little “nests” in my hair, on the groove of my collarbone, which filled me with awe.”
    …….
    “Our bond was so strong that it became immeasurable – we both needed each other. In return for putting his life back on course, he was replotting mine by giving me purpose and new perspective.”
    …….
    “I still cry when I think of him.”
    …….
    “Raising him taught me how to live in the present and changed me for ever.”

    This chick is nuts.

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