Origins of the “Immature Boy” Stereotype

Frat boys and lumberjacks are the best forms of masculinity being embraced by younger generations.

Readership: Christian Men
Theme: Problems with The Red Pill / A Failure of Imagination / Faux Masculine Archetypes
Length: 750 words
Reading Time: 4 minutes

Late 20th Century

The ‘Immature Boy’ archetype was originally a form of low-brow cynicism regarding the Metrosexual persona which came about in the mid-90s, regarding the narcissistic, effeminate young man concerned with color-coordinated fashion, exfoliation, and manscaping.

There is good reason to believe that ‘Frat Boy humor’ and ‘Lad Lit’ journalism which surrounded the Metrosexual image being sold was a media innovation designed to cash in on the Xers egocentric tastes in dignified professionalism. Ironic, but true.

Interestingly, the Metrosexual image was an iconoclastic deviation from the Grunge culture that was then the current rave, and so appealed to a markedly different array of demographics, most notably conservative Christians* and the upper class who were both appalled by Grunge, and g@ys who found the poignant refined tastes to be a form of personal expression.

* The underlying spirit of the Grunge movement was authentic, introspective, and pessimistic, and as such, was a reiteration of the Beat movement that occurred in the late 1940s and 1950s. In terms of conscious idealism, these movements should have held a greater appeal to Christians. However, (cultural) Christians preferred to aspire to a refined image for themselves that contrasted with the surrounding culture, and so materialism won out over conscientiousness.

Early 21st Century

Spornosexual was introduced in 2014 as the replacement hip term for Metrosexual, but with an emphasis on physical fitness and cultural dandiness. The most ostentatious examples proffered by the media (e.g. David Beckham, Justin Bieber, Tom Brady, Johnny Depp, Zac Efron, Ashton Kutcher, Ryan Reynolds, Christiano Ronaldo, et al.) made a big sploosh with wimmin as they were seen as being both narcissistic and among the highly desirable top 10% of men. Post adolescent chicks and Cougars alike referred to men who fit this image as ‘boytoys’ and ‘dream beaus’.

Modern masculinity has discarded raw courage and has taken on a philosophical edge.

There were many other ‘[Insert X]-sexual’ terms that were bandied around at the time (e.g. retrosexual and übersexual), each receiving a short airplay among trendy teens.

With the partial exception of the Lumbersexual, all these other images and terms were sensationalistic products of 3rd Wave Feminism, designed by media hosts to use the perceived peer pressure of social relevancy to extort cash from the sexual proclivities of the young, make light of masculinity, and parade the effeminate and immature but conspicuously wealthy (play)boy as the charming delight of the age.

However, these terms never really gained much traction in popular usage among the targeted audience (Millennials).

The most obvious reason is because Millennials were less egocentric and more nihilistic than Xers.

Another reason is because this image was directly replaced by the huskier Lumbersexual which had already appeared as the next boon in men’s fashion at that time. But for obvious reasons, this was a dead end as well in terms of marketing male frivolity. Apart from the clothing industry, the Lumbersexual archetype was considered too ‘deplorable’ and too retro-masculine by marketing elites to receive a concerted cultural airplay.

A third key reason is that these terms were concocted by media marketing strategists for a targeted demographic and had no real use in the common vernacular of common people. The reality is that very few men actually had the money, leisure, and physique required to adapt to this stereotype, and truth be told, were more accurately described as ‘Soyboys’ instead.

Zac Efron reviving frat boy humor.

But hold my beer, dude!  More recently, the frat boy humor has been revived (or continued) in the form of Fratire. Similar to the Lumbersexual image, the general impression and subject matter of Fratire is a definite break away from W0ke interests.

Epilogue

The important point from this brief review of marketing history, is that the general image of dandified adolescent masculinity presented by the media actually caught on with the public. While civic responsibility was being replaced by environmental consciousness, young men abandoned traditional role models of masculinity lauded by earlier generations (e.g. Sean Connery, Clint Eastwood, Steve McQueen, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, John Wayne, et al.), patently dismissing them as the geriatric gorilla goons of an archaic, uncivilized, and bygone age. Instead, they felt comfortable in accepting an image of masculinity that was decidedly more effeminate, more Gillette, more W0ke, more willing to cater to the demands of others and especially of women, and also less concerned, even apathetic about achievement, responsibility, developing personal and professional capability, and amassing character building life experiences.

In summary, Lumbersexual and Fratire have posed some degree of backlash to the media’s concerted effort to eviscerate and feminize masculinity. Furthermore, certain concepts of masculinity arising from the Manosphere (e.g. detachment, dread, purpose, etc.) have slowly made inroads into the public awareness of manhood, adding to the fray.

Unfortunately, the Manosphere has not yet succeeded in overturning the ‘Immature Boy’ image of maleness.

Related

For those interested in further reading about the transmogrification of masculinity at the onset of the 21st century, the following articles offer well-written snapshots of what was happening at the time of authoring.

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21 Responses to Origins of the “Immature Boy” Stereotype

  1. thedeti says:

    Looks like a recent history of “what women claim to want in men”.

    There’s no satisfying women, really. Better for men to be who they are and ruthlessly remove from their lives anyone and anything that doesn’t add to their lives. Most men do not and cannot live up to these archetypes anyway.

    As I’ve said many times, most men are not sexually attractive enough for this market and have not been for decades. Most women lack sufficient character to be in long term relationships.

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    • Joe2 says:

      The girls will laugh and be amused only when a sexually attractive man like Zac Efron engages in frat boy behavior, as shown in the last picture.

      The girls would have a completely different reaction if the man was not sexually attractive.

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      • thedeti says:

        Of course. If you’re a sexually attractive man you can get away with pretty much whatever you’d like (unless you’re a famous attractive man with a lot of money, in which case you’ll be sued so someone can get their paws on your money).

        It’s funny and cute and sexy when an attractive man acts like a fratboy a$$hole. When an average man acts like that, women call the cops on him, white knights gang up on him, he gets canceled.

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    • Malcolm Reynolds says:

      It’s not decades, it’s millennia since the majority of men weren’t sexually attractive enough to reproduce with women.

      It’s a lie sold to 20th century men that doing labor in the military industrial complex instead of agriculture will change the fact, that they are sexually unattractive. This happened because they need these all men (plus women) in the workforce, not just those men being attractive enough to provide for a family.

      These reason is that an agricultural occupation usually meant an unattractive man worked just enough hours for feeding himself, he didn’t provide for a family or paid taxed or social security or anything else. And why should he?

      They need the full work hours from every unattractive man and woman to feed the Moloch. They sell deceptive lies to keep their slaves occupied. This also applies for the Trumps, Carlsons, Wilsons and the likes.

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  2. feeriker says:

    “Most women lack sufficient character to be in long term relationships.”

    This is epecially true of the current generation of Zoomer women. If TikTok and dating apps serve no other constructive function, it is to document this fact.

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  3. Info says:

    I think too much of the so called 80’s Masculinity may well be a gay man’s caricature of it.

    Although I don’t mind the humor of many of those action heroes.

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  4. Red Pill Apostle says:

    “Apart from the clothing industry, the Lumbersexual archetype was considered too ‘deplorable’ and too retro-masculine by marketing elites to receive a concerted cultural airplay.”

    Check out the pricing on Carhartt clothing or Duluth Trading Co. items. There is certainly a strong market segment for well made, durable clothing that appeals to men who work with their hands. There is also a subset of women who are attracted to men who wear that type of clothing.

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  5. feeriker says:

    “There is also a subset of women who are attracted to men who wear that type of clothing.”

    That “subset” was a majority of women yestercentury, before women’s attraction cues were destroyed by hormonal birth control and the negative peer pressure of feminism.

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    • Cliffton Adams says:

      In addition, do not discount the role that mass multi-media has had on shaping expectations and perceptions.

      Cheers

      CD Adams

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  6. Oscar says:

    Speaking of which…

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  7. farmlegend says:

    So long as we’re mentioning fratire, check out the recent Tucker Carlson interview of Tucker Max, the family man.

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    • thedeti says:

      The Tucker Carlson Podcast: Author Tucker Max left behind a wild life of partying to settle down on a Texas homestead with his wife and kids. (2024/5/3)

      Tucker Max, “family man”, prepper and homesteader.

      Everyone has to grow up sometime, I suppose. It’s just that I didn’t like his reconversion to blue pill “you gotta be nice to women” shtick after he gave up his partying and womanizing.

      “Sex for me, but not for thee. Do as I say, not as I did.” Yeah, BS.

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      • farmlegend says:

        Yes, and when you grow up as Tucker Max, a natural Chad if there ever was one, and your interactions with females are overwhelmingly different from what average males encounter, it may be easier to look a bit more charitably upon the opposite sex.

        He grew up with women’s initial reaction upon encountering him being positive; such reactions were pretty alien to me in my youth. Tucker’s bluish pill reconversion is somewhat understandable.

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      • thedeti says:

        “… natural Chad if there ever was one, and your interactions with females are overwhelmingly different from what average males encounter, it may be easier to look a bit more charitably upon the opposite sex.”

        Yes. When you can treat women well and do well with them; and you can treat women poorly and still do well with them; it does make a difference how you see women.

        Me? I treated women well and did poorly with them. It wasn’t until I treated women poorly and started doing well with them that things turned around.

        I had to become the a$$hole everyone told me I shouldn’t be, just to survive.

        I had to threaten to destroy my marriage in order to save it.

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    • thedeti says:

      Also, his reference to his prior books as “fratire” suggests his prior life was just trolling. Just a joke.

      “Hey, all that stuff about “I hope they serve beer in hell” and “A$$holes Finish First” and my overall prior life of douchebaggery? Yeah, I was just kidding. It was all in fun. That was then, this is now. I’s all serious now. Take me seriously. I am an Authority on Life And How To Live It now.”

      I’d sooner take Roosh seriously. I’d sooner take Doug Phillips seriously. They retreated from the public eye and have at least tried to live better and do better, without calling attention to themselves.

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  8. Info says:

    Speaking of derogatory terms. There is one called a “pick me” for women who try to cater to the male audience. I’d say they deserve to be rewarded for attempting:

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  9. Oscar says:

    Off topic: Hanoi Jane wants a very special kind of boycott over petroleum.

    Men:

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  10. Will S. says:

    I’ve told my wife it’s the exact opposite; modern day young women are the immature brats, while men have to be more responsible and more mature in our society today, and often are.

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