War between China and Taiwan makes no sense

Don’t fall for the hype generated by the fake news syndicates.

Readership: Current residents of North America, i.e. the United States of America; Westerners; Those from China or Taiwan;
Length: 700 words
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Since I received the message from my mother in the U.S., a few readers have emailed me with a similar message — that the news in the U.S. is reporting aggression between China and Taiwan.

One reader wrote,

“It’s being hyped up as a potential war over here, and the media is talking about how Japan is preparing for war too.

I find it to be BS. Japan doesn’t want a war, and they would be dragged into it — most of our air assets in the region are based in Japanese territory.

It also makes no sense: America has done nothing to punish China or to bring manufacturing back to U.S. shores. We are still beholden to them for everything. They have us by the balls, and we don’t have the capability of projecting force.

As per timing, it would have made sense for China to take action this summer, when many of our transport aircraft were busy evacuating Afghanistan. 

The wild card is that the US makes poor decisions when it comes to foreign policy and I can see democrats trying to create some false sense of unity.”

Yes, spinning up the cold war between China and Taiwan into a real potential for a hot war with the United States is fake news. It makes no sense, just like invading Iraq in 2003 made no sense.

RedPillApostle brought our attention to an article on Townhall, Are China’s Threats to Taiwan a Bluff? (2021-10-08). The author, Pat Buchanan, brings out the point that a war between China and the U.S. would make no sense from anyone’s perspective. Yet, the Chinese are counting on this being to their advantage, as then any conflict would surely be seen as an unwarranted aggression by the U.S. (from an Asian viewpoint).

One thing I don’t like about Buchanan’s analysis is the way he is staking the moral reputation of the U.S. on whether Washington responds to the situation in Taiwan with military action. In this respect, he is a sortie for the warmongering PTB. This stance is obvious in this statement.

“We will fight for Japan’s right to hold the Senkakus and Manila’s right to retrieve Mischief Reef, but not to ensure the rights of the 30 million people of Hong Kong and Taiwan.”

I am afraid that American viewers will latch onto this sentiment and get the idea that the U.S. has to go to war with China to “defend democracy” or some such justification to defend Taiwan. We’ve all heard similar justifications for war in the past, with Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan… and now Taiwan? Heh… When will the ‘Muricans wake up? Your sons are on the line (and now daughters too!).

Furthermore, if the U.S. went to war with China over the issue of “freedom and democracy”, they would surely suffer massive losses, as many strategic estimates have suggested. Worse, it would enflame China’s determination to solidify various disputed territorial claims, leading to more bloodshed.

Again, there is no such news like this here in Taiwan. A warning to expats has not even been issued from the U.S. State Department, and they will send a message to American expats in Taiwan if so much as a strong wind blows westward (literally).

“The American Institute in Taiwan (AIT) cautions U.S. citizens that Typhoon Chanthu is currently in the western Pacific Ocean east of Taiwan.  This severe typhoon has been building in intensity and moving rapidly toward Taiwan.”

An excerpt from an email sent from the U.S. State Department to American expats in Taiwan. (2021-09-10)

This was the last message sent from them — a month ago. They’ll also send warnings for local drills and defense exercises. But there’s been nothing about a threat from China.

“And you will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.”

Matthew 24:6 (NASB)

Update: Adam Piggott has written a response in his post, Taiwan and Data Point Analysis (2021-10-09).

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16 Responses to War between China and Taiwan makes no sense

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  2. okrahead says:

    World War I made no sense. The decision to fire on Ft. Sumter made no sense. Napoleon’s decision to invade Russia made no sense. Custer’s attack on the Sioux encampment at the Little Big Horn made no sense.

    All of these things had reasons, but from the perspective of your reasoning above, made no sense.

    The Chinese are exhibiting signs that they have read Sun Tzu and take him seriously. The best time to attack is when your enemy believes you are incapable of doing so.

    Do you believe the state department will show more concern and loyalty for American citizens in Taiwan than they are showing for American citizens in Afghanistan? On what would you base that belief?

    Taiwan is of extreme strategic value to China’s desire to expand its influence and control the Western Pacific. Taiwan’s chip factories alone make an excellent economic argument for the Chinese to invade.

    “1 From whence come wars and fightings among you? Come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?

    2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.

    3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.”

    China lusts for economic dominance, regional hegemony and international prestige, all of which are reasons for an invasion of Taiwan.

    The U.S. is militarily and economically weak. We have broadcast our weakness for the world to see in the Afghanistan retreat, in the Bonhomme Richard burning in port, in our navy’s inability to pilot its ships even in peacetime without running into civilian shipping. Weakness invites aggression.

    Will Biden go to war for Taiwan? Will he risk Hunter’s investment portfolio to protect your life, and the lives of your family? If you believe he would, on what do you base that belief?

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  3. Oscar says:

    @ Jack

    “…spinning up the cold war between China and Taiwan into a real potential for a hot war with the United States is fake news. It makes no sense, just like invading Iraq in 2003 made no sense.”

    No one asked if war with China made sense. That’s a red herring. The question is; will it happen or not? As you pointed out, the war with Iraq made no sense. So what? Did it happen? As okrahead pointed out, WWI made no sense. So what? Did it happen?

    People do things that make no sense all the time.

    By the Chinese definition of war, China is already at war with the USA, and with Taiwan.

    War is “using all means, including armed force or non-armed force, military and non-military, and lethal and non-lethal means to compel the enemy to accept one’s interests.” ~ Colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, Unrestricted Warfare

    Colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui wrote of assassinating financial speculators to safeguard a nation’s financial security, setting up slush funds to influence opponents’ legislatures and governments, and buying controlling shares of stocks to convert an adversary’s major television and newspapers outlets into tools of media warfare. Most of that — and more — have already been happening for decades.

    By that definition, China already scored a major victory against the USA in Afghanistan. And they will do the same in Taiwan.

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    • Lexet Blog says:

      None of those wars featured a nation taking over territory that was 1- historically theirs, 2- occupied by their own people who speak the same language, etc.

      China can’t invade without massive civilian casualties. They don’t want that.

      They want to show their overwhelming might that is superior to anyone else’s, and get Taiwan to side with them.

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      • Maniac says:

        “China can’t invade without massive civilian casualties. They don’t want that.”

        I don’t think Jinping cares too much about that.

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      • Lexet Blog says:

        China needs skilled labor. They will happily kill off mainlander poors. They will treat HK and Taiwan differently.

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      • Jack says:

        “They will happily kill off mainlander poors.”

        This is stretching things. Chinese culture is strongly meritocratic. Those with an advanced education, those in positions of power, those who hold wealth, and those who host the employment and livelihood of others are esteemed to be “more valuable” to the workings of society, and therefore receive more benefit of a doubt, consideration, deference, and respect. This does not mean that the poor are worthless, but sometimes it can look that way by comparison.

        Taiwan tightly controls immigration along these lines. Anyone with a criminal record or who has certain diseases are not granted a visa. Only foreigners with bachelors degrees are permitted to get a work visa. Permanent visas are only offered to those with a high education, or who have noteworthy careers important to the economy, or who invest over NTD 20 million (US$650,000) in a property or business in Taiwan. Exceptions are made in the case of marriage. The general idea is to improve the overall quality of the people in Taiwan, and keep loafers out. China is like this too, but has even tighter requirements. One requirement for citizenship is that you need to have Chinese ancestry. Americans would call that racist, but the fact is that it’s good for Chinese society if everyone shares this commonality.

        Every country should have similar requirements for immigration, especially the U.S. The time of Manifest Destiny has passed.

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      • Oscar says:

        “China can’t invade without massive civilian casualties. They don’t want that.”

        Once again….

        War is “using all means, including armed force or non-armed force, military and non-military, and lethal and non-lethal means to compel the enemy to accept one’s interests.” ~ Colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, Unrestricted Warfare

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  4. Lastmod says:

    I am half Polish. My father was five years old when the Nazis “rolled in” in a kind-of surprise attack. Poland was the first nation to suffer and witness firsthand the new “modern” warfare of mechanized ground and air power.

    My Polish grandfather once said this to me as a teen before he died, and I recorded this on cassette tape:

    “The Germans had been playing a show of force…. cat and mouse for over a year on our border, in the skies here and there…”

    “Yet, still when the Germans attacked on Sept 1, 1939…… we were still “surprised” that it was actually happening. “We had alliance with the British and French. Wasn’t that a deterrent enough? Britain and France would attack Germany immediately right?”

    “After a few days….. we Poles were getting our asses kicked, and Britain and France? Just sitting there. Strong words. No declaration of war on Germany yet. Why are the Soviets now attacking us? We had a treaty with them. Not an alliance. Everyone watched, and declared war after the fact when most of our key cities were blown to ruins, we were blockaded…… on the radio all we heard was “Britain and France have denounced this aggression…”

    “When war was fully declared…. we Poles found out a few days after the fact… when the lights were out, most radio knocked off the air…… and finally when that evil war ended, and two and half million Poles dead or starved to death…. England, France, and The USA didn’t even stand up for us to have a free Poland. This war was ignited by the Germans attacking us, and in the end…. the Soviets got what they wanted. General Patton was the only person who spoke sense at the end of the war, that the Allies should have declared war on the Russians immediately…”

    Who knows in the end. Just be safe Jack.

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    • Joe2 says:

      “Yet, still when the Germans attacked on Sept 1, 1939…… we were still “surprised” that it was actually happening. “We had alliance with the British and French. Wasn’t that a deterrent enough? Britain and France would attack Germany immediately right?” After a few days….. we Poles were getting our asses kicked, and Britain and France? Just sitting there. Strong words. No declaration of war on Germany yet.”

      My history books tell a somewhat different story. They state that on September 3, 1939, in response to Hitler’s invasion of Poland, Britain and France declared war on Germany. Britain’s response, was initially dropping of anti-Nazi propaganda leaflets—13 tons of them—over Germany and then began bombing German ships on September 4. France would begin an offensive against Germany’s western border two weeks later. Their effort was weakened by a narrow 90-mile window leading to the German front which was enclosed by the borders of Luxembourg and Belgium—both neutral countries. The Germans mined the passage, stalling the French offensive.

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      • Lastmod says:

        The French could have easily overwhelmed German forces in the west at the time. It was joked in the press of the day calling the British and French declarations of war a “sitzkreig” while Poland was pretty much destroyed.

        I personally believe, and I have no proof of this mind you…… both Britain and France were again hoping that Hitler would sue for peace. Hitler was very shocked when Britain did declare war (Shirer’s “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” 1960). He played the gamble well with France. France declaring war…. but too frightened and paralyzed politically and socially at all levels of government to do anything.

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      • feeriker says:

        On the subject of the invasion of Poland, the court historians, as usual, give the USSR a free pass that it doesn’t deserve. Establishment history gives June 22, 1941 as the USSR’s date of entry into the war. Bullsh!t. The correct date was September 17, 1939; the date on which they invaded eastern Poland, taking the half of the country that Hitler so graciously left for them.

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  5. feeriker says:

    I can absolutely see the Biden Administration (or more accurately, its Deep State handlers) being stupid enough to stage a “wag the dog” scenario by fomenting war with China. Or maybe it would be evil rather than stupidity; they certainly know that the consequences would be America’s destruction, which they seem hellbent on achieving in any case.

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  6. feeriker says:

    “The wild card is that the US makes poor decisions when it comes to foreign policy and I can see democrats trying to create some false sense of unity.”

    Again, I can see the demonrats being desperate and stupid enough to think such a tactic would work (it often has in the past), but it will fall flat this time. Too many people are waking up to what’s really happening and will see right through such a ploy. Imagine anti-war resistance that makes that of the Vietnam War era look like a schoolyard sit in by comparison.

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