Called to return from exile

Christians cannot directly change the converged, Western culture. The only solution is to be separated somehow.

Readership: Christians; Marriage advocates;

I came across a thought provoking article from AlfaNL, Wrath of the incels (April 29, 2018), in which he discusses the disturbed behaviors of Alek Minassian and Elliot Rodger, and concludes that it is an “entirely predictable consequence” of the demise of a Patriarchal establishment. In this article, he writes (emphasis mine),

“Such continual rejection hits a man right in his balls. It’s a soul-crushing rejection: you are not man enough for society. And society encourages this behavior. Society says: it is deeply empowering of girls to reject loser incels, also it is deeply disturbing that incels think they are entitled to sex.

Normies, being as egotistical as anyone, have trouble wrapping their minds around this point. In their minds society is an innocent bystander. Nonsense. Society determines male status, and if society lowers male status, the males already on the lower end of the ladder feel it the heaviest.”

Yes, this is what Western, Feminized society says to the grand majority of men, and most of these men, including Christians, can’t comprehend any choice in the matter.

Yet, the Bible gives us clear instructions about what we should be doing.

14 ”Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” ~ 2nd Corinthians 6:14-18 (KJV)

1 “And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, ‘Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.’

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, ‘Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.’” ~ Revelation 18:1-6 (KJV)

More verses on “coming out of the world” can be found on the King James Bible Online: Bible verses about being set apart (search engine).

Alek Minassian and Elliot Rodger did right in rejecting that Society which prejudicially rejected them first. However, they took the wrong, nihilistic path of Revenge.

MGTOW’s also choose to reject society’s norms, but they have enough dignity and self-esteem to skip over the terrorist response, and choose the relatively more honorable lycanthropic mode of existence.

Lycanthropy: a frenzy or melancholy, which causeth the patient (who thinks he is turned wolf) to fly all company, and hide himself in dens and corners.

But contrary to their impressions, MGTOW’s are not the true wolves of Society.

MGTOW’s do well to “go their own way”. But for most men and women, singleness is neither normal or desired. I think many MGTOW’s would agree with this on a gut level. But they can’t admit this to themselves, because not being able to follow it through to the logical conclusion creates too much frustration and cognitive dissonance. Thus, MGTOW’s are also victims of a feminized society.

The true wolves are the top 20% of high-SMV men in western society, according to the 80/20 rule. They are the lynchpin of western society’s fallen ontology, as they willingly express their satyriasis when sexually engaging themselves with the theoretical 80% of liberated females, and thereby defraud all other men from achieving a satisfying pair bond in marriage to a choice female.

But we admire those guys, because they’re just… so cool. They truly know the grace of God! We won’t ever condemn those guys, because everyone loves them too much. Our society depends too much on charming Alphas!

But no one realizes that this is exactly how Absalom undermined his father David’s kingdom: beautiful vanity, a sexualized comportment, compassion for the common man, promises of justice and political equality to those feeling wronged…

Here we have an evil hierarchy of authority: Society worships female dominance, but dominant females worship the archetypical, satyrical cad. In turn, the promiscuous cad worships Baal as the head of the hierarchy. This has gone on for so long, that Baal has by now institutionalized the covenant of his society-wide worship, making it very difficult for a typical Christian to escape the curse.


Because Satan designs his traps specifically to appeal to the weaknesses of the flesh, it is too easy to get caught up in this mess. Young, naïve, pubescent, easily impressionable teenagers are especially vulnerable.

Scott’s assessment of how to create an institutionalized path towards marriage says a lot about the problem of convergence. I might take the liberty to summarize his points as follows.

  1. Marriage is an antithesis of worldly society. I’ll add that worldly society is anathema to marriage.
  2. Marriage requires a Christian man to be the head of authority in the home.
  3. Marriage requires an ordered structure centered around shared values.
  4. Separate yourselves from Babylonian-American culture!
  5. Separate yourselves from the converged Church!
  6. Abandon the false belief systems that you learned in Babylon (e.g. Chivalry, Feminism, Egalitarianism…), and separate yourselves from any people or social groups that might be holding you back.
  7. Separating yourselves may require some planning, financial backing, and strong resolve.
  8. Expect something better to come, after a time of trials and persecutions.

A comprehensive reading of Scott’s analysis strongly indicates that a “coming out” is absolutely necessary. He hinted at this in points 1, 4, and 5, and he states it explicitly in point 7.

So by now, it should be clear to my readers why Christians are called to separate ourselves from the world. But how should it be done?

Young Christian, yearning for the blessings of home and family. Return from the mass exile to Babylon! Come out of her, and receive the fruits of the Lord’s promises!


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11 Responses to Called to return from exile

  1. Lexet Blog says:

    I think Christians will have to become the “new” mennonites and amish.

    “MGTOW’s do well to “go their own way”. But for most men and women, singleness is neither normal or desired. I think many MGTOW’s would agree with this on a gut level. But they can’t admit this to themselves, because not being able to follow it through to the logical conclusion creates too much frustration and cognitive dissonance. Thus, MGTOW’s are also victims of a feminized society.”

    I think most MGTOW would support marrying following 2 conditions:
    1- increase in the quality of women
    2- decrease in the risks associated with relationships.

    Using government statistics alone, a hyper majority of women are not marriage material, as they are promiscuous. At least when Britain was full of prostitutes in the 1800’s, you could escape to europe or the states. There is nowhere to run now.


  2. ramman3000 says:

    I agree with Lexet. As the Anabaptist teachings erode, becoming ever more liberalized across the country, there are now only relatively small pockets remaining. The faithful are increasingly breaking off from their denominations.

    Yet how are we to do it? Are we going to start our own new denominations? Why not just become traditional Anabaptists? Presumably because we can’t all agree on theology. This is going to stand in the way of Lexet’s suggestion.


    • Lexet Blog says:

      The rest of the Protestant groups will have to socially isolate themselves from society at large- like the Amish etc.

      We are in a season of separating the wheat from the chaff.


  3. Ed Hurst says:

    I’m pretty sure a comment to a blog post is not the place to propose much of a solution. Moreover, I doubt that a parallel society based on theological and traditional distinctives has already proved to fail; that’s still a Western approach to things. I believe it will require a different culture altogether, an otherworldly identity that refuses to assimilate. We will always be stuck in a worldly cultural climate that resists Christ, so we have to build on the basis of infiltrating while keeping our distinct identity.


    • Jack says:

      It seems like you are saying that the separation discussed in the post has to be a personal and psychological one, and not one primarily based on church or community. Yet I believe there needs to be an aspect of community, especially when finding a spouse. The lack of an authentic community is one of the biggest hindrances that people face in this respect. What are your ideas about how this should work?


      • Ed Hurst says:

        Well, I was disagreeing with the communities proposed so far, either Orthodox (in the previous post) or Anabaptist (in the comment above). Both choices presume a basis of theology and tradition that may work for some, but would hardly be universal. My point was we need to do more work on the idea of community itself. I think there’s lots of room for variations, and most answers so far are simply too parochial. I’ve suggested a different approach altogether and this is something we need to discuss at length. My blog post today will address this some. I plan to write more about it to refresh the topic.

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  4. Gunner Q says:

    “But contrary to their impressions, MGTOW’s are not the true wolves of Society.”

    We’re the true monks. In medieval Europe, unwanted/dispossessed men went to monasteries and did amazingly well for themselves and general society. That’s a good path today but doing it publicly would bring the State’s wrath upon the new male space. Which is why MGTOW is decentralized compared to past bachelor movements.

    And that’s why there’s nothing to be done now: God is not allowing us the opportunity to organize. All of our leadership for half a century has been controlled opposition. Once organization becomes possible then things will proceed quickly. I think, however, that God is intentionally not permitting Christians to unite in order to accelerate society’s decay. Setting the stage, most likely.

    As for those two case studies, Minassian had serious mental issues (such as pretending to be a cat, IIRC, and previously attempting suicide by cop with a toy pistol) and I still suspect Rodgers was a homosexual. Unsexy men frustrated to the point of random slaughter are first frustrated to the point of using porn or prostitutes. No shortage of those around.

    Minassian in particular. I can imagine an angry incel engaging in coercive rape but not an angry incel driving on the sidewalk to mow down random pedestrians like a Muslim. His crime doesn’t fit his alleged motivation. There’s also doubt on whether he wrote that infamous Facebook screed. A suicide note addressed to Sgt. 4chan, seriously?


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  7. ramman3000 says:

    “I was disagreeing with the communities proposed so far, either Orthodox (in the previous post) or Anabaptist (in the comment above). Both choices presume a basis of theology and tradition that may work for some, but would hardly be universal.”

    Let me address this point directly. As mentioned (link), a church needs to have a < 10% rate of premarital promiscuity and < 3% rate of infidelity/divorce among its faithful, active members. To get rates this low requires the following by practical necessity:

    1) Christian sexual ethics must be explicitly taught.
    2) Members who initiate divorce, in full view of #1, are excommunicated.
    3) Those caught in promiscuity (including cohabitation) or adultery and who remain unrepentant after being confronted are excommunicated. Infractions must be confronted according to the proper procedures (Matthew 18).

    Where in America can you find churches that hold these bare minimum standards? I’ve attended Anabaptist churches where the divorce rate was < 3% and the (probable) rate of premarital sex was < 10%. I would think some Orthodox/Catholic churches can make this claim as well, because of their official doctrinal stances. What other churches can make this claim? Shouldn’t these congregations be our leaders?

    These choices do presume a basis of theology and tradition, but if the alternatives bear rotten fruit, is that not proof that those alternatives have failed? The premise of the OP is that we need to cut our losses and separate, rather than try to fix.

    Since I’ve entered the ‘sphere, I’ve pointed out a few of the successful churches. I’ve suggested that people physically join those communities or seek to emulate them locally. The result has been a universal “No.” Who is interested? Even I have not quit my job and moved back home. I attend a Baptist-style non-denominational church which doesn’t teach apostasy, but also isn’t implementing the items I listed above.

    “My point was we need to do more work on the idea of community itself. I think there’s lots of room for variations, and most answers so far are simply too parochial”

    If I started my own church, no one in the ‘sphere would join me, both for doctrinal* and geographical reasons. We tend to be obstinate about doctrine and are just not big enough as a group to enact meaningful change. Yet, consider Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Sure it has lots of Anabaptists, but it is not exclusive nor the majority. You can find congregations of all shapes and sizes: Catholic, Methodist, Presbyterian, etc. It is diverse enough to satisfy most of the ‘sphere’s doctrinal variation. Most of those churches tend to be more traditional than their same-denomination peers in other places (especially the West Coast).

    The culture, as a whole, is better because the salt-and-light, fruit-bearing quality of the sub-community influences the whole. It is not complete isolation (even in the extreme case of the Amish), but it is unified enough to satisfy the goals of separation.

    * The last time I attended church in Lancaster, the Mennonite preacher was a young earth, strict 24 hour creationist. I’m not. Regardless, the worship service was lovely and made up of a diverse audience from different states. It was Christian unity that put doctrinal differences aside.


  8. ramman3000 says:

    SF, I have a post stuck in moderation on this page. I probably used too many links.
    [Liberation from moderation has been granted!]


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