Christian faith transforms the soul and spirit, but is insufficient for redeeming the flesh in a fallen world. The combinatoric result can be sexually liberating. Includes a fem-lexicon translation.
Readership: Red Pilled Christian Men
Warning: Contains descriptions of sexual encounters; profane language;
Cane Caldo’s post, A Preface to the Discussion on Whores (February 5, 2019) brought up the elephant issue of how sexual sin is regarded so casually by Christian women.
Cane’s second post in his Discussion on Whores series, DoW I: Celebrating Hay in a Needle Stack (February 14, 2019) reported that 65% of regular church-going, married individuals reported having premarital sex.
So anyway, let’s assume that 65% figure is legit for the sake of discussion. That leaves 35% who are supposedly not doing it. We know from the 80/20 Rule that 10-20% of those couldn’t get laid if their soul depended on it, and let’s face it, no self-respecting man wants to marry a woman with whom he wouldn’t do the vertical dance. The remaining 15-25% is wound up on fears, or still waiting for “the One”, or some other solipsistic, hamsterbated inhibition is keeping their ankles tied… Then there’s a small number who keep themselves pure because their love and obedience to God keeps them waiting.
A couple pastors I have known estimate that only about 10% of their congregation are true believers. If your woman is one of those 10%, you probably shouldn’t have to worry about her indiscretion. The problem is the other 90%, who claim to be Christians, but who have a rodeo hobby horse reserved for stimulating what others mistake for the glory of Christ. Truth be known, the only times I have ever seen women spiritually glorified is when they were having an affair, or were just about to. I’ve seen this so often, that now, whenever I see a woman glorified, I automatically jump to this conclusion.
Cane’s third post, DoW II: Diversity Plus Proximity Equals Whore (February 19, 2019), basically discusses how women effectively separate the concept of marriage from the thrills of sex. Women want to be ruled over, but only in a hotel room by a cad for a few nights a month. Lawfully wedded husbands, on the other hand, are to be dominated, every day!
Cane’s series, and their comments, have brought up the following questions in my mind.
- Why do Christian women have the reputation of being whores in the first place?
- Why are Christian women who indulge in promiscuity typically lacking all sense of shame?
For the Case Studies in the following discussion, I’ll use the two examples given in Cane’s first post, and two examples from Boxer’s archives.
Case Study 1: Jesus saved her from being choked to death by her bondage masters
Cane tells the story of tracking down an interesting Twitter feed, only to find a surprise at the end.
“[The tweet was from] some young woman not only in Texas, but in the town where I live. Small world and so forth. That young woman had in her Twitter feed an exhortation to herself that Jesus was looking out for her. So far so good, you may think.
As you know, newest tweets are at the top and you have to scroll down to go back in time, as it were. Long story short, about four hours before she tweeted about Jesus, she had tweeted, “I miss being choked at night.” My hope is that there is no connection intended.
I can hear your wheels spin from here. “Oh, she’s not a real Christian.”, your mind ejects. Whew! That was a close one. Now you can go back to pretending girls like that don’t know really know Christ is the son of God, born of the virgin Mary, and was crucified for our sins and raised on the third day. Right? Therefore, she’s not a girl from your church who went off to college to learn a career and “find herself”. Shhh… Be at ease, sleeper…”
Becoming a Christian doesn’t immediately remake a woman into a shining angel. She has the same personality, the same desires, and the same feral nature as she always had. If she had a kinky sexual blueprint before knowing Christ, then she’ll always have a weakness for the snap of a whip and a forceful grip. The only difference is that she’ll not be worshipping phalluses because she’s desperately addicted to the toxic love she gets out of it. No, instead, her familiarity with the soul warming love of Christ gives her the power to say “no” to illicit sex, if she should ever decide to show her love for God through being obedient. [Question to ponder: What would motivate her to be obedient?] But either way, her Freedom in Christ gives her the liberty to accept and thoroughly enjoy being herself, whoever (or whatever) she might be. Depending on her degree of cooperation, the process of her sanctification may very well extend through her entire lifetime.
That’s the ugly truth about Christianity that you’ll never hear from the pulpit!
Case Study 2: Swiper, no swiping!
Cane tells of a conversation he overheard at work.
“The next day I went into work and heard this conversation between three college-aged coworkers:
Senior Cody: …and just say to her, Look, you swiped right, I swiped right. We both know what this is about. Let’s get it on!
Underclassmen: Hahahaha! Right! Exactly! What else could she be thinking?
Cody: And, hey, listen… listen… if she’s got a Bible quote on her profile then definitely go for it because you know she’s a ho!”
People have suspected that Christian women are bigger whores than non-Christians for who knows how long. But since the advent of women’s liberation over the past 60 years, it is no longer taboo to say so.
With my experience in Asia, the only women that post Bible verses or Christian inspirational quotes on their profiles are Catholic Filipino migrant workers. Whenever I saw those Christian moxies under the woman’s photo (or in lieu of a photo), I knew I was dealing with a married adulteress with a lot of emotional issues, and maybe who had some kids back home. Every time. I am guessing they mainline moxie to deal with their shame and separation anxieties. The bottom line for them is that making money abroad is more important than maintaining fidelity and family time. [Question to ponder: How could a man sort out women who cite Bible quotes as a method of ameliorating their guilt and shame, from those who do not?]
Case Study 3: Boxer and the Christian-Easy Red-Head
A while back, Boxer recounted this story of how he quickly and easily bedded a hot, red-headed frivorcee who claimed to be a Christian. He writes,
“The first thing she told me was that she was “a devout Christian woman.” I took this to mean that she’d be easy to fuck on the first date. I fucked her within two hours of meeting her.”
Sadly so, Boxer… the statement, ‘I’m a devout Christian woman’ is commonly understood to mean, ‘I’m DTF!’ Even according to my own life experiences which pale in comparison to Boxer’s, I believe it’s quite true. Christian women are the first to jump on alphas, and the first to shrivel up around betas, and they’re not hesitant to get things jiggling.
Even here in Asia, if a western guy wants to get laid, scoping out the local single women at the nearest Christian church will yield a better lay ratio than hitting up a bar. Many women go to Church for the sole purpose of meeting and slaking foreigners. If a man wants to have a “Christian marriage”, he’s wiser to marry a thin, mature, submissive, respectful, Buddhist woman, and lead her to Christ in the process. That’s no joke! They are more likely to be loyal for life, because they take their wedding vows seriously.
[Question to ponder: What benefits do Christian women offer to Christian men seeking a wife? More to the point, why should I ever have to ask this question?]
Case Study 4: Boxer and the Furious Femme Fatale
Before we all jump on the bandwagon in roundly condemning Christian women who freely sample the pleasures and comforts intended only for marital life through illicit sex, let’s consider a non-Christian woman who does the same. This last case study is presumably NOT a Christian, and so we’ll let her serve as the experimental control for this study.
Boxer’s follow up post, described how he gamed two women, including the red-head in Case Study 3. Boxer showcases the volatile emotional nature of the second woman. He intentionally flamed her, just to watch her flip. Let’s examine some of her text messages, and see what she’s made of.
“It’s okay that you like me, but I’m scarred and damaged. I’m thinking now that I might not be fit for dating.”
“I’m thinking I might drive a sane person crazy about now.”
“Cuz I know I’m not sane.”
These coded statements are LOADED with non-verbal trickery laced with chick crack. Here we have Psychological Projection, a Bait-and-Switch in the making, and a Petition for a License to Ill. Let’s translate these statements into plain language.
“It’s okay that you like me” = “You have passed my alpha filter… so far.”
“But I’m scarred and damaged.” = “The Feelz are my Lord and Master, and my soul has already been marked with the evil badge of sadness.”
“I’m thinking now that I might not be fit for dating.” = “I am going to do whatever I feel like doing, and I don’t have to give you, or anyone else, any apologies or justification for not feeling committed.”
“I’m thinking I might drive a sane person crazy about now.” = Psychological Projection that could be interpreted to mean, “Right now, I feelz like doing something crazy. Are you crazy enough to get on down with it and not judge me?”
“Cuz I know I’m not sane.” = “I am one h*ll of a psychopathic, Tingle-crazy, nympho-b!tch who has gone full tilt in my zenith breeding mode! I am totally DTF with anyone who passes my Alpha filter and strokes my Tingles, and I hope you are not going to waste my time and disappoint me!”
If we read between the lines, I can guess she is also saying,
“Let’s see how much Alpha you are, and how much I can control you, use you, abuse you, and get away with it.”
“I’m coy now, because that’s my man-bait, but once I get my teeth in you, I will chew you up and sh!t you out the same @ss orifice that just ate your jizm.”
“If a man decides to treat a skank-ho wimminz decently, and is honest about his lack of interest, then this is the likely result. The following message was sent by a crazy little brunette that I banged a couple of times in the last month. Note that I dumped this particular piece of lackluster tail just to see what she’d do. She even managed to impress me. I thank her for providing my younger brothers of an(other) example of wimminz insanity.”
“I KNOW ALL YOU WANTED FROM ME WAS SEX YOU MOTHERFUCKER. DON’T EVER TALK TO ME AGAIN!!!!”
“Now, the chances that a wimminz will make a false complaint of sexual harassment, assault, stalking, etc. against a brother are minuscule, but those chances are greater than zero, and moreover, they are much more likely to come from the wimminz who is motivated to send you angry text messages, than one who thinks she dumped a needy whiner. This is true simply because the Christian redhead is now embarrassed to have let me fuck her, while the crazy brunette feels cheated out of her chance at romance and a relationship by a cad, who had sex with her and bounced. If she decided to make a false complaint, she would feel as though she were complain-bragging, whereas the first woman would feel like she’d be admitting to stooping to sleeping with someone who will always be beneath her.”
Women who say this line, “All you want from me is sex”, or some similar variant, are women who possess the following qualities.
- They are extremely solipsistic.
- They have absolutely no control over their sexuality.
- They have never had the notion that it might be wise to exercise self-control.
- They have no sense of personal responsibility, and are prone to place all blame on the man.
- They see men as merely as a material resource provider, and an ego stimulant. If a man fails to deliver these, he is demoted to being a sub-human, leg humping beast with no personality.
- They have a severely maladjusted appreciation of male desire, and therefore tend to see it as an annoying bug, instead of the primary channel of their feminine powers.
- They may have suddenly discovered that the man in question is much less Alpha than originally presumed, which produces the outrage.
When Boxer presented himself as a beta, he quickly got dumped by the ‘Christian’ red-head. But when he presented himself as an alpha-chad to the other, he became the target of the scorned woman’s fury.
The idol here is the ego trip that the woman gets out of controlling men, and consuming them in various ways at her leisure. If she is successful in this endeavor, she will throw the man away after her purposes for him have been fulfilled. If she is not, she will attack that man until she can fulfill her desire, or else gain a sadistic satisfaction over destroying him in some form or fashion.
Following Boxer’s analysis, there is no fundamental difference between women who claim to be Christian, and others who do not. They both behaved exactly as Boxer predicted. I have to agree that in terms of people’s actual behavior, Christians are not much different from non-believers. Christians put their pants on every morning, just as non-Christians do. The real difference between Christians and non-Christians is that Christians tend to be more spiritually and psychologically healthy. This is a quality that cannot be readily observed, and it is even more difficult to detect in a relationship because,
- Both men and women find it difficult to judge the socio-spiritual trustworthiness of members of the opposite sex. Instead, their attentions get caught up in a selection criteria based on attraction and Feelz.
- People always wear their best face going into a relationship. This hides personality glitches and character flaws, while delaying the process of knowing the person.
In fact, it is nearly impossible to tell if a woman is a true believer or not, unless you’ve spent a lot of time in close proximity to her, met her family and coworkers, and have basically become a part of her life. I’ve heard some old hands say, you never really know a woman until you’ve slept with her for a few months.
The point is, women are women, Christian or not. But if a woman is a Christian, I suppose that’s better for her own soul and psychological well-being, but it’s no guarantee that she won’t slooze around in college, or even step out on you after marriage.
The Bible encourages us (or warns us, depending on your view) to pursue honorable lives, and not fritter our freedom of faith away in the pursuit of vainglorious or destructive bemusings of the flesh.
“For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.” ~ Galatians 5:13 (NKJV)
“For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men — as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God. ~ 1st Peter 2:15-16 (NKJV)
These exhortations presume that Christ gives us spiritual liberty and psychological health, but what a person does with this freedom is wholly up to them. Indeed, the introductory paragraph of Cane’s post is a reflection on God’s purpose for believers.
“The Bible tells us that our conduct will speak for us and for Christ as we make our way through this time of exile in the world before our Lord returns. We can either honor Christ and ourselves with our conduct, or bring both into disrepute.”
If a man opts for a Christian girlfriend or wife, she’s only better in the sense that she won’t be as depraved and manipulative as the Femme Fatale in Case Study 4. But whether or not she will take the effort to be obedient to the Word is entirely up to her, and whether she is one of those 10%.
In addition to the “Sunday Christian” problem of true-but-trivial faith, there are many larger problems looming. Modern culture makes it waaay too easy for all women to flirt with the devil and not have to face much (if any) consequence or censure. His tools of seduction include,
- The widespread social acceptance of sexual liberation.
- The six sirens of the sexual apocalypse.
- Social media and dating websites which provide whoards of opportunities with men.
- SMS and internet communications which are easy to hide and delete.
- The flaccid “love and forgive” social atom-osphere of the church.
People hardly ever feel guilty about any sort of sexual transgression. There’s literally no opportunity to be shamed for it.
If it is any consolation, a Christian woman is not likely to speak in coded language, and if/when she does screw around, she’s more likely to be open and honest about it. Although I’m not sure if that would be a “confession” or “profession”. Hence, the apparent “lack of shame” lamented in Cane’s posts.
- Dalrock: Slutting made her a better Christian (September 9, 2014)
- Σ Frame: Eve Ill Idolaters (September 8, 2018)
- Donal Graeme: Pulled Every Which Way (February 18, 2019)
Wow, The above article does point to some pressing problems in today’s Christianity. I do not think that there are many people today who really understand the purpose of sexual morality.
Clearly, we (Christians) are not doing a good job of raising our daughters. They behave no differently than the pagans do, sorry to say. And, there is the irony of the so-called Christian woman who, after years of sexual promiscuity before marriage, plays sexual gatekeeper once married. As well, and not surprisingly, not a few such women often have great difficulty adjusting to monogamy as it is just too boring for them.
You can’t block me in here, you beta cuck mangina
I have a good mind to post my comments that you selectively deleted in order to con people that I had done something wrong on your blog. Never met a more dishonest, treacherous fraud in my life until I had the misfortune of running into you
So I will ask you again, are you a born again Christian who serves the Lord from a pure heart, and will you repent and apologize for slandering my doctrinal position on your blog?
I make a habit of copying all my comments before I post them on WordPress because of the sheer amount of gutless cowards like YOU who dishonestly censor and block people when confronted with their bullshit, so go ahead you gutless coward, go to war with me, I have the origivnal comments before you deleted them and if needed I will post them in here where you can’t delete them
Larryzb can’t block you, but that doesn’t mean this blog is not moderated.
1. Your comment is grossly off topic.
2. You are making personal and profane attacks against other commenters.
I’ll also comment on some other things you wrote.
As I said in the OP, it’s impossible to know the answer to this question without knowing the person on a day-by-day, face-to-face basis.
You have your own blog to do that, and you have already written a post about your grievance with Larry. I’ve read it too, and I welcome you to the Manosphere. But there is no purpose to continue that here.
I kindly suggest that you work on building up a following by writing poems that are thought-provoking, helpful, informative, and inspiring to your readers. I wish you the best!
Thank you for giving me the impetus for writing a new page on a comment policy. It will appear soon, so stay tuned!
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Banning and blocking me then I see lol
If you read my blog, you will.know my position on this
I just didn’t expect my fellow men in the manosphere would be gutless cowards as well
I was wrong to use your platform to comment about Larry, but he’s such a coward, this is the only way I could get him to read my comments
Yeah it was a low blow but it worked
Not that you care, but since you’re blocking /banning me or moderating my comments I will be unsubscrubing from your channel
Like you said, I will stick to my own WordPress channel as EVERYONE in here is a gutless coward who blocks comments or super moderates them like Dalrock and I honestly do not have the emotional energy to keep battling you people
Before you ban me, you need to seriously consider why the leftist libtard, SJW mangina, feminist cucks have the EXACT same banning policy as do WordPress blogs…. You guys have the same cowardly agenda!!!!!
Necron, go and look up the term “gaslighting.” Your posts are toxic, and your comments here are toxic. EVERYONE who DOESNT 100% AgReE with you is WrOnG!! That is childish.
Your claims present the following scenario: either one of the two of you is wrong, or both of you are wrong. Consider the scriptural consequences of you being wrong, before you go online, and in the name of Christ, swear and rant like a lunatic.
You claim to be a christian, but personally attack others without any valid reason. Rather than respecting the host of this blog – Sigma Frame, you are attempting to take over the conversation, and insult others.
Stop acting like a spoiled child. Grow up. If you cant, then shut up and get off of this blog, Larry’s blog, and please dont come over to my blog. You are not welcome there.
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Yes some of what you’ve just said is true and I do need to tone it down a bit
I have zero tolerance for those who block others so it causes me to react and “rant ” as you put it
And I was terribly wrong about Sigma Frame, who I wish to apologize to, I lashed out at him because I feared he had banned me when he didn’t
He deserves a full apology from me, which I offer unreservedly
The ONLY thing you are wrong about is your mistaken assumption that I would come to your blog, you just declared that I’m forbidden there, which means you’ve preemptively blocked me already. You would do well to remember that I don’t waste time with cowards, i.e those who block people, so don’t worry I will never waste my time at your blog 😄
I haven’t blocked you, its just that you are not welcome there. Again, you want to apologize to a person you were just ranting against, and now you are labeling me a Coward.
Take some time and look in the mirror, and ask yourself if you take wordpress way too personally, and if you need to take time away from the internet.
You sound and act like one of Steve Anderson’s followers. Dont go down that dark path.
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I think you’re right, and I’m not being sarcastic, I genuinely mean it
WordPress is making me very angry and I’m lashing out at every one
Can I ask you a personal question? Are you a Christian?
I’m not asking because I doubt you like I doubted Larry, I have a very different motive in asking you, and I think I know the answer
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Yes, I am. WordPress should not be your only source of human interaction.
If you have to, write for yourself, and dont publish it until later on.
When making comments that particularly harsh, write them out on a .doc, and sit on it. come back to it later and see if you want to publish it then.
When you start making accusations against other believers, it is not a lighthearted matter. On this blog, I have made some very direct accusations against several prominent pastors and ministries. They are not made lightly, and I can defend my stance on them. I also do not make it a practice of mine – Ill only discuss those who are influencing people I attend church with.
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You have my deepest respects
I wouldn’t recognize them as Christians. Plain and simple
Wayne– email sent.
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Scott, please send to sigmaframe at protonmail dot com. Thanks!
I just wish to formally apologize to you. I had no right coming into your blog and disrupting it as I did
It won’t happen again
For those interested, I cleaned up my own blog threads, they did not represent how a Christian should act with my vile name calling
Necron, no hard feelings.
I encourage you to spend some time with God. Pray about what ideas and experiences you have that He wants you to tell the world through your blog. I believe everyone has something that could benefit others, even if only a bad example to be avoided.
I don’t have the mind to block you here. But please adopt the viewpoint that you should be contributing something worthy to the discussion.
Thanks Jack for your kind words, they mean more to me than you know
I will definitely be praying and getting closer to Christ in the future before putting pen to paper
I’m still subscribed to you lol and I intend to keep it that way!
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Deti’s second law of relationships:
There are no functional differences between Christian women and secular women. Christian women are (or at least can be) as depraved, sexually damaged, and morally compromised, as a nonChristian woman can be. She might be a Christian, but she’s still a woman, and All Women Are Like That, including Christian women.
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This is an absolute truth that every married Christian man or Christian man hoping to get married should understand. Many Christian women are only “not as bad as the non Christian ones” and that is their goal, to be “not as bad as”. This, however, does not actually mean they AREN’T as bad as non-Christian women, and will often be just as bad when given the chance. Just as in a man’s walk with Christ it must be a conscious effort to be obedient to the word of God and not just “not worldly”. One can be someone who is not actively partaking in the sins of the world while still not actively seeking to be obedient to Christ. The ages old axiom “Good people go to hell every day” comes to mind regarding this.
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