Hammering down on Female Agency.
Readership: All
Theme: Consolidating Masculinity
Author’s Note: Written by Oscar.
Length: 150 words
Reading Time: 1 minute
Here’s a thought (THOT?) experiment for the group.
Imagine you were filming one of those random-people-on-the-street interviews. You ask young women, “Would you like to be married to a millionaire?”
Suppose they say, “Yes”.
You reply with…
“Okay. Statistics show that the most likely path for you to be married to a millionaire is to marry an ambitious young engineer or accountant. Avoid debt. Live on less than you make. Pay off your house early. Invest 15% of your take home income in good growth stock mutual funds. Send him to work every morning with his belly full and his balls drained so he has that extra pep in his step that helps him climb the ladder faster.”
(Okay, I made that last part up.)
“20 years later… Voila! You’re married to a millionaire!”
“Would you still like to be married to a millionaire?”
How do you think most of your interviewees would respond?
Σ Frame 
It’s been awhile, but had to comment on this one. As a young man who is currently on track to hit such a target, can confirm those industries are legit (and don’t forget finance and tech). That last requirement certainly would motivate ME more…
The other way? Owning a blue collar business (see the research from “The Millionaire Next Door”). That’s an even tougher sell for the young women:
“You’ll also have 5-10 years at the start where he makes $50K and you have to drive a beat up Honda. Oh right… And 86% are married, 65% still on their 1st marriage. So you probably can’t leave him early on if things don’t happen right away since he likely won’t hit it until he’s 50…
Aggregate source: https://millionairefoundry.com/millionaire-statistics/
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FrankChalmers,
In the link you shared, I noticed that being a millionaire follows the 80/20 Pareto Rule. 80% of millionaires are self-made men. 20% inherit their wealth or stumble across it somehow.
In this link it says,
Which means there are about 14,700,000 male self-made millionaires in the U.S.
It also says,
Which means there are about 2,800,600 Millennial male, self-made millionaires in the U.S.
Considering that only 10% of men are considered attractive, this means that there are only 280,060 handsome, young, male, self-made millionaires in the U.S.
Since there are about 35M Millennial women in the U.S., this means that, realistically, only 1 out of 125 (0.8%) of Millennial women can marry a handsome rich man.
Considering that only 14.5% of men are over 6 feet tall, this implies that there are only 40,600 tall, handsome, young, male self-made millionaires in the U.S. This whittles it down even further. This means that, realistically, only 1 out of 862 (0.12%) of Millennial women could possibly marry a proverbial 666 man.
My educated guess is that this 0.12% of Millennial women who manage to catch a 666 man are women who are emotionally mature, agentic, low N, and helped him out along the way.
Women who hope to snag one of these men should be asking themselves, “Am I the best pick out of 1,000 women?” and “Can I do what it takes to help a man become one of those millionaires?”
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Thus, we return to the Female Delusion Calculator.
https://igotstandardsbro.com/
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Oscar,
Great! The results are roughly what I calculated.
With odds this low, maybe this contributes to the reason why so many women choose the carousel and career route.
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They won’t, because they all believe the p-sleeve will be enough. “I am the table”, remember?
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Your numbers look good. I suspect their female numbers are skewed by divorce and widowhood, though… See Example A: MacKenzie Bezos and Example B: Melinda Gates.
I have always wanted Deep Strength to do a male version of his Doom & Gloom series. I think it would be very enlightening for Christian men to realize that if they got their act together, they could quickly become more desirable and rarer than the women DS calculates the probabilities for. Even someone who is an inch or two short of 6 ft (like myself) or not the cutest puppy in the litter (but is still 6 ft) will still be in high demand due to the low number of rich, fit males that exist in church today. I usually only meet guys that are one or the other.
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“only if she thinks you’re hot to begin with”
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Oh, that was a trick question. I thought you meant, “Would I like to be married to someone who already has a million dollars in the bank?”
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The value of this THOT experiment is that it snaps women back to reality and provokes women into realizing that (1) they need to invest themselves in a husband, (2) they need to exercise agency on an ongoing basis, and (3) things in life are not going to be handed to them just for showing up late in a worn out thong. It also induces humility by pointing out that their behavior is part of the equation for a man’s success.
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The Rational Male has an article on this:
The Rational Male: Choose Wisely (2019/5/21)
In his view. As hypergamy cannot afford to make mistakes. Therefore its better to marry a proven bet than potential.
Only when said ambitious engineer or accountant has achieved millionaire status then he is the prize.
There is no do over with quite a limited fertility window.
She will have to marry young to an older proven man in that case.
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Info,
Rollo is describing the evo-psyche inclinations of the flesh, which is true within that paradigm. But the weakness in this strategy is the relative rarity of bagging a millionaire, holding off the competition, and holding it all together as she ages. Very few women are capable of this, even women born into wealth, especially amid post-Feminism.
If marrying a millionaire is out of reach, then marrying for potential is the next best option.
The other alternative is marrying a person on virtue of the relationship itself, which I believe is more in tune with God’s will — choosing someone who inspires you to grow closer to God, humility, love, shared values, mutual life goals, trust, understanding, etc. — believing that a good solid marriage in itself will do much to lift one’s social and financial status.
Oh, wait, sorry… I got lost in an idealistic dream. No one thinks that way anymore. Not even Christians.
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They would have to snag a millionaire ASAP when in late teens and early 20’s for this to work at all.
I mean, certainly having a solid income that is six figures could count too as a prospect, but such a man is likely in his 30’s and she has to snag him in her early 20’s.
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The evopsych mechanisms of the flesh were designed by God. Even Gold diggers for example is based on the legitimate need for the provisioning of the Husband.
It’s a matter of identifying how much sin has distorted God’s design from its original.
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Good looking (“hawt”) people can become unattractive over time due to unadmirable character traits. (This is the reason for the adage, “For every beautiful woman there is someone who is tired of f*cking her.”) It’s true the other way around also. I know some folks hate it when I say that. Also, marrying for potential (because you see great value in someone) is smart. The alternative is marrying someone who you think isn’t going anywhere but “Heh, it’ll do.” We spent our youth saving money and the kids had thrift store clothes and furniture for the first half of their lives. Now we are loaded. 30 years of marriage later. Most people at 20 cannot image themselves 30 years later so marrying someone to be wealthy decades later (maybe) isn’t a very smart life plan. But marrying someone who you admire and want to build a life and family with is.
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I don’t even know what the point of this comment is.
Most women don’t tire of f_cking a hot guy. They get tired of the BS drama associated with trying to conduct a relationship with the guy. They absolutely LOVE the sex. They hate the rest of it.
Yeah. Women marry for “potential”, or at least they should. Men do not. Men do not ever marry for “potential”. I don’t need “potential” in a woman. I need her to be what I need, now.
Men never, ever marry for “It’ll do.” Women do all the time.
Preach to women, not to men. Women are the ones who need to read this.
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I was under the impression that “women” were the subject here. Since my life experience fits the hypothetical pretty closely I thought it was pertinent. My bad. [/Liz out]
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The “hot” guy will be a drunk and jaundice quick. Same with hot women.
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That’s foolish. There’s no such thing as a 20-year-old Proverbs 31 woman. There are, however, 20-year-old women who have the potential to become one.
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Looks are over played on this side of the internet. They just get you in the door.
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Oscar.
We’ve had this discussion before. I was right then and I’m right now. Men need women to be attractive and feminine and kind, and they need women to be those things now.
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I never said that men don’t need women to be “attractive and feminine and kind” right now. I agreed with you on that then, and I agree with you on that now.
But that isn’t all that men need. If it was, then Proverbs 31 would’ve said, “look for a woman who’s attractive and feminine and kind right now. The end.” Spoiler alert; it doesn’t.
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I’ve had this idea stewing in my head since I read Jerr’s The Wall Speaks. It was an insight I had, not something he said, and I just haven’t had a place to put it. Now looks like a good time.
Women NEED masculine order, are lost without it, and will search endlessly until they find it. Money, looks, and status are caricatures and cheap imitations of Frame, but women will take them when genuine Frame cannot be found. Think eating a honey bun when you haven’t eaten anything in two days. It’s not good for you, and might upset your stomach, but calories are calories and you stay alive another day. Women are not as bothered by material suffering as they are by lack of Frame. But if she can’t get genuine Frame, she’ll take whatever’s available.
I can already see Deti’s fingers on the keyboard, so I’ll add that yes, women have been psyoped out of recognizing real Frame. The healthy ones see it, but those are few. Women need to detox from eating honey buns and re-learn what real food tastes like. This will be a painful and scary adjustment for them, so most of them won’t do it. But put a Framed man in front of a healthy woman and he will not need to be 6-6-6. Just my theory.
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Interesting. My Greatest Generation mom played the long run game with my dad, an engineer who basically followed the Ramsey scheme before there was a Ramsey. It paid off for her years later, actually fairly early on after about ten years of marriage, she was pretty much on easy street the rest of her life.
My Boomer feminist life-script following sister, cashed-in with her “bad boy,” cashed back out, and cashed back in with her Beta, but ended up a childless, woke couple with a few cats as kids.
My Gen X wife, cashed in at 21, and twenty or so years in, she had it good as far as finances were concerned, not great like her Greatest Generation mother-in-law, but pretty darn good.
And my Millennial daughter, like many of her peers, approached it like she was going to hit the lottery with a Chad with money and no commitment issues; and she’s single at 31 having broken up with her Chad fiancé because of… ??? Not sure, why. A casualty of the pandemic to some degree, but my sneaking suspicion there’s a bit of hypergamy thrown into the mix as well.
Pretty much got all bases covered with the females in my family tree as far as examples of the “THOT Experiment” go.
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@redpillboomer,
The Greatest Generation in my family followed a similar script. I think a lot had to do with experiencing the Great Depression and WWII. It was a necessity for survival and there was a lack of government safety nets.
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My closest friend back in Missouri is a pig farmer. He owns a large farm where he grows soybeans and corn (all the farmers around there rotate those two crops), and feeds them to his pigs. His operation runs like a finely tuned manufacturing facility (and I say this as an engineer who works in manufacturing). He’s one of the most successful businessmen I’ve ever met.
My friend and his wife met in high school and got married right out of college. She might be the smartest woman I ever met.
Jack’s right. A wife is supposed to be her husband’s helper. She’s supposed to help him achieve his potential, not parachute into his life after he’s already achieved it. Read Proverbs 31 again. Does she seem like the kind of woman who helped her husband reach his potential, or the kind that parachuted in after he’d already met it?
Besides, which kind of woman do you think is more likely to waste all your money? The kind who helped you build your wealth (Prov 31), or the type who was looking for an already wealthy man to marry (i.e., a gold digger)?
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Say a man got it together in his 30’s and if he looked among women in his 20’s, he is stuffed?
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What does “got it together” mean?
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@Oscar
As in managing to get his foot in the door of a stable income. And buying property after having adequate income.
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@ info
I should have also asked what you mean by “stuffed”.
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@Oscar
That the dating pool is predominantly gold diggers and very few pickings of potential Proverbs 31 wives.
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@ info
That’s always been the case.
They were hard to find in King Solomon’s day. They always have been and always will be. Sucks, don’t it?
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@Oscar
Scooped up very quickly. Hence @locustsplease’s difficulty especially, as I recount reading.
Lord have mercy.
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@ info
Agreed. If (God forbid) I ended up single again, I doubt I’d remarry. I’m 47. All the good women in my age range are happily married with a house full of kids. There may be exceptions, but they’re extremely rare, which means finding one would require a lot of time and energy, and that time and energy would be better spent on my kids.
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@Oscar
For people in the Millennial Reign where to die before 100 is to be considered a youth.
And people remain young for centuries it will change everything. But in the mean time our life is like a single breath. Before resurrected immortality.
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She’s supposed to be a helper.
Yes. And she can be that now. She has to be that now. Her “potential” to be that is useless.
Men do not marry women who have the “potential” to be helpers in the future. Men choose, or should choose, women who can be those things now. Women need to be those things now, before they can be chosen, or before they should be chosen.
Clear?
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Yes, she can be a helper now. But you can’t know if she’ll do you good and not evil all the days of your life (Prov 31:12) until you get to the end of your life.
You can’t know if she’ll be wise enough to consider a field and buy it, and from her profits plant a vineyard (Prov 31:16) until the two of you have built enough wealth together for her to make real estate deals.
You can’t know if the honor she brings you will help you sit among the elders of the land (Prov 31:23) until you’re old enough to sit among the elders of the land.
You can’t know if she’ll watch over the ways of her household (Prov 31:27) until you have a household for her to watch its ways.
You can’t know if she’ll be the kind of mother whose children rise up and call her blessed (Prov 31:28) until you have children together who are old enough to even think of doing such a thing.
And, if you don’t look for that potential in her, then — according to the book of Proverbs, and the Holy Spirit Who inspired it — you’re a fool.
Clear?
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Oscar, thedeti,
I want to remind you of something we learned from our study of Women’s Agency. Women only become agentic under the tutelage of a man. So if we are looking for a woman who is a ready-to-go helper, then she would’ve had to have learned this from her father. So part of the equation is (1) the relationship she has with her father. Another part is (2) the relationship she has with the man. Is she willing to invest herself in him? The other part, which I think Oscar is alluding to, is (3) whether she has the inherent character of a Proverbs 31 woman who will actually follow through on what she has learned from her father, and applies that towards serving her husband and household. We can readily observe the first two, and I think this is what deti is getting at. Concerning the last one, only time can tell, as Oscar pointed out. But if we can assume a trajectory, then the chances of (3) are astronomically higher if (1) and (2) are already in place.
More evidence that a woman’s relationship with her father means everything.
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@ Jack
I’d add that if you want to know how a girl will treat her future husband, watch how her mother treats her father, but that’s probably a subset of the girl’s relationship with her father.
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If that was the case, no man could ever use anything to reliably predict anything about women.
But that isn’t true. You CAN reliably predict this, based on the woman’s present (not “potential”, present) character and outward behaviors.
Femininity. Attractiveness. Outward character. Relationships. Basic honesty. Willingness to own up to her errors. Willingness to submit.
A woman can be those things NOW. RIGHT NOW. Not someday. NOW.
That’s how you know you have a Prov. 31 woman.
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FIFY
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I was a much different person years into our marriage than I was in the beginning. I wouldn’t have believed what we would go through during that time. All the deployments and moving over 20 times in the course of 25 years. We could not be closer, but we did that lots of uncertainties and hardship for years. Marriages are battle tested. At least, ours was.
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FWIW, I think this is true of many military spouses who have done the full journey and didn’t start in the middle or at the end. We’ve been in squadrons where just about every pilot was divorced except us, and we’ve been in squadrons where just about every pilot was in a longterm marriage. The longer we stayed in, the higher up he went, the more were in the second category. Last assignment we had many good friends and just about all were married as long as we were. And yes, they all seemed happy. Offered a long road of years of observation. Civilian life is probably much different.
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Location is a big factor too. We’ve lived in places (Las Vegas, for example, and quite a few other places) with a lot of really bad examples of humanity and marriages. Lived in places where just about every couple was a “swinger”. (The local Montessori elementary school for example had a fundraiser where the mothers were paid to make out with each other. I’m not making this up.) Living all around also offered both good and very dim views of humanity. When I lived in one place my opinion of marriages and humanity were much different than another place. It makes a mark on you. Anyway, I am done posting, unless someone asks a direct question, then I will answer. Otherwise hope you all are having a good weekend.
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Can you tell us the location of this Montessori elementary school and the places where just about every couple was a “swinger”?
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I’ll tell you the state (and general area) but don’t want to dox myself with the exact location.
It was south Florida.
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Just to add, seemed to go hand in hand with very very heavy drinking issues (and perhaps other forms of substance abuse).
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Liz. We’re living with heathens. Not the other way around. Every now and then u get a reminder. We assume they share our values.
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Liz. About 3 years ago, I had a very attractive, very seductive, air force wife milf try to have sex with me while I worked at her house. She invaded my personal space and was about a foot away from me. Then she said, “I didn’t know how strong someone had to be to cut down a tree like that. I was watching u from the window. Completely naked, drinking my morning coffee like I do every day. Surprised u didn’t see me.” Me: “I can’t see anything with the glare.” Her: Inviting me inside, offering to give me anything I like. Me: “No thanks. I got to get this tree done. But we’ll take a couple pops.”
“Just like in the movies!!”
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Liz, LocustsPlease,
I believe this kind of thing happens much more frequently than most people might think.
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@Liz,
Hence banning abortion is important. As it helps connect sexual immorality with consequences.
And people will be less likely be sexually immoral.
And we should stop subsiziding pREP for promiscuous sodomites.
@locustsplease,
Men who allow themselves to be cuckolded in this way via being a swinger have no dignity, not only for himself but God’s design for sex.
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@info
What’s interesting is when people follow God’s law, the devils ways are unnatural to them. When they follow the devil’s ways, God’s ways are unnatural to them in all ways. When I became a Christian almost ten years ago, I saw, little by little, things I used to enjoy disgusted me. It disgusts them to do godly things.
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@locustsplease
As you have received the Holy Spirit. His Law is being written in your heart. And your instincts are being rewritten as a result.
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But your basic core character did not change and was the same. It’s that basic core character we’re talking about.
It is extremely difficult for someone to make fundamental alterations in one’s core character. One is pretty much what one is from early childhood. It’s much more nature than nurture; and there’s a lot more “nature” than we had though when I was growing up in the now-discredited “tabula rasa” days.
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“Dear Penthouse Forum,
I too did not believe all the stories until one day, my secretary just came to work and decided to not wear panties…..”
I personally believe they happen to, again……. a few people. Most people have to read about it in disbelief. Most men are invisible to women now which actually isn’t a bad thing. The last thing many young men need is another distraction, which we’ll call Red Pill & Co., to howl at them for not having money saved, and a career, and a house, and retirement $$$ saved before they are 22.
Who knows. It’s a world I was never allowed to be a part of.
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Apparently, the vast majority of women are invisible to you, since you think the “average” woman looks like Liv Tyler.
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Again, you are missing the point. Not surprisingly.
When you look at Liv Tyler in a magazine, she is hot. When you see her in real life, she’s average. Hard to believe? Then again, no….. it’s not.
So many women without the makeup, glamour shots, proper lighting, filters, and everything else today… it’s really no surprise.
To you it is.
Why? Well, again it’s Jason making this comment. If Scott, or Sam, or Deti, or Novaseeker, or Jack said what I said, you would agree “just because”.
Average women back when I was young. The “country gal with a nice smile and a sundress” wouldn’t speak to me. Or would tell me all sweet like, “It’s not you, it’s me”, and “You’re a great guy, buuuttttttttttttttt……”
Probably because I didn’t look like you, or Scott, or Sam, or Liz’s airline pilot hubby. I didn’t look like Jack. Was not as smart as all of you combined on my best day……
And again, you assume a “country gal in a sundress” would make a good wife, is ready to be a proverbs 31 woman, and just wants masculine leadership and to walk twenty paces behind her husband. A doormat.
You were all fortunate to marry and find such women. Most men cannot and will not, and never will…. Not because of feminism (though that is a big point) but for the most part NOW:
It’s a result of the man-o-sphere setting up impossible standards for any man — except you, of course — to live by.
And now, saying a woman is attractive who isn’t a famous Christian supermodel is somehow being a “Third Wave Feminist”.
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Maybe it’s NOT “just because” … “it’s Jason making this comment.” Maybe it’s just because Jason has assumed some preconceived notions that are at odds with the present discussion and is therefore saying something fundamentally different from what the others are saying. Jason can’t pick up on the difference, so then he jumps to the conclusion that he’s being discriminated against, based on his looks — in an online forum.
Makes sense!
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Again, you’re projecting like an IMAX, not surprisingly.
The word “average” means something. The average American woman is about 5’4″ and 170 lbs. That’s not my opinion, it’s empirical fact. On the left is a 5’4″, 170lb woman.
You can see a bunch more actual average women at this link.
Have you ever considered the possibility that your skewed perception of what is average may have caused some of your difficulties with women?
And now you’re lying again. I just disagreed with deti right here.
And another lie. I never said any of that. I just said that’s the kind of woman I’ve always found most attractive.
And another lie. No one said that. Are you even capable of writing a single post without lying about what others said? Has it ever occurred to you that people don’t like being lied about? Do you lie about others in real life as often as you lie about others here? Have you considered the possibility that lying about others may be one of the causes of the interpersonal problems you constantly whine about?
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@Oscar
The woman with the tattoo can laser the tattoo away:
That’s why women shouldn’t Tattoo in the first place.
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Jack. I have no idea what your comment means. I am responding to Oscar and well….. now I’m not doing something right.
As for Oscar. Your the biggest A-hole I have ever dealt with on the Internet.
Good luck! God seems to like a-holes.
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Oscar takes all your words seriously, and he goes to the trouble to challenge your thought processes.
Oscar is being a friend in that respect, and yes, friends can be a-holes at those times. You don’t seem to know who your friends are. (I was the same way when I was younger.) The truth is, if you were in a bind, Oscar would be one of the few who would help you see it through. Be thankful for friends like Oscar.
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Lets not take it that far.
*I dont seem to know who my friends are, and you were that way when you were younger. (Typical PUA / Game talk. neg, neg, neg… “When I was younger…” inferring that I am a kid or teenager.) Who has friends today? Most men don’t have anyone to call when life happens and just “falls apart”. I certainly didn’t, back when I quit the drugs / drink. Part of the reason why so many “go back” is the fact that when they get clean or seek help… out comes the finger pointing and sanctimonious tones. I know some people, but as for someone to call???? Didn’t have that even when I was a Christian, and if I couldn’t find it there….. well, I am hopeless.
Oscar is always, always…… the first to pounce and say to people, “You should have… / You didn’t… / Why didn’t you… / You could have…” In my IBM days we called a person like that a “fault finder”. What he says is true, but it does little or nothing to help the situation at hand. Well….. All it does is make the person feel more like sh!t than they already are. These types of guys are also a pain-in-the-ass.
If I was drowning in a lake, Oscar would ask me, “How come you didn’t learn how to swim? I did! Oh… You were just lazy and didn’t want to put in the work! God was right there in the form of a swim instructor, and you didn’t take the chance to learn. You were offered a chance and didn’t take it. Sucks to be you I guess. Be well, and be blessed!”
He may indeed go the extra mile for you, but a nameless, faceless “bitter loser” on the internet? No, he wouldn’t and why would he?
I once believed that “a friend is that guy who knows all about you, and still likes you anyway.” I was a fool for believing that statement.
Anyway……. So Oscar will have no problem with his sons marrying those “average” women in all the photos on that link. That was considered “below average” in say 1992, or 1983. The problem is, most men are deemed ugly by women today and have been for the past twenty years, no matter what they do.
For me, it’s water gone under the bridge for a long time now in those matters. But hey, I have a “good friend” like Oscar to remind me, “You should have… / You didn’t… / You’re bitter… / You didn’t put the work in…”
And… I just crossed 19 years of sobriety. No relapse. Rebuilt my life despite men like him sh!tting all over my parade every chance they got. 🙂
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I do.
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I’m late here but the women interviewed in this video are expecting the guy to be making a lot when they get married. They don’t expect to struggle any. I don’t like to reference a female dating coach but her interviews with women are worth watching. The very high expectations are why the “passport bros” has become popular.
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I could believe that one or maybe two of these women came from UMC homes, and thus have some reason for wanting to maintain the living status they had during their formative years. The others are lost in a Disneyland fantasy. None of them, IMO, are worthy of the UMC/UC lifestyle they desire, partially because of their unrealistic solipsism of imagining themselves to be of a much higher economic class than their character and constitution would realistically allow. Men of such means will laugh at these women as having no true class and dismiss them as flamboyant gold diggers.
The reality is that people of the elite socioeconomic class will only marry someone who is in the same socioeconomic class. LC and MC people cannot “fake” their way into elite circles. The UC can smell a LC or MC background a mile away. They’ll even view people from a LC or MC background who newly arrived into the UC with cynical suspicion for at least a generation or maybe two.
The differences between the classes is that UC people are focused on the maintenance and transgenerational propagation of the family “dynasty” (for lack of a better word). That’s not the same thing as wealth and class, but wealth and the luxurious UC lifestyle is what LC and MC people see in the UC. In contrast, people originating from a MC background have (or used to have) expectations for “love”, emotional intimacy, and “commitment” that people in the UC do not have. Prioritizing pleasures and self-interest is a trait of the LC.
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You definitely don’t want one of those. That’s not a helper, that’s a parasite.
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Tattoos used to be associated with the very low class, criminals, prisoners, other sundry undesirable characters.. Or military. Even then usually these types would only have 1 or 2 tattoos, not sleeves, not neck or face tattoos. But today tattoos are so ubiquitous that virtually all fields of work had to start allowing employees with tats otherwise they’d have no workers. That’s what happened in hospitals.
Personally I find them ugly but I’m trying to withhold character judgement just because everyone from doctors to lawyers to baristas and even pastors have them now.
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““Okay. Statistics show that the most likely path for you to be married to a millionaire is to marry an ambitious young engineer or accountant. Avoid debt. Live on less than you make. Pay off your house early. Invest 15% of your take home income in good growth stock mutual funds. Send him to work every morning with his belly full and his balls drained so he has that extra pep in his step that helps him climb the ladder faster.”
What percentage of young American men are in the process to become ambitious engineers or accountants? Or how many do you personally know? Things have changed. Most young men don’t believe in “the American dream” or have these types of ambitions anymore. Many are living with and off of their parents. Relunctantly taking a part-time job at mom’s behest or getting dooped into internet scams and MLMs. The ambitious engineers and accountants are students from East and South Asia, Nigeria, etc. Some of them will stay on to work here and become the next upper-middle class suburbanites to keep our economy going. This is a pattern you can already see.
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