What One Man Can Do, Another Can Do

Encouraging words for overcoming debt and other obstacles.

Readership: All; Men; Men in debt;
Theme: Consolidating Masculinity
Author’s Note: This essay was written on 2022/10/6. Editing, formatting, and images added by Jack.
Length: 2,000 words
Reading Time: 11 minutes + 4 videos totaling 27:23 minutes.

Case Study 1 — Roger Bannister

In his post, Restoring Respect (2022/9/28), Jack shared the following magazine cover of one of the greatest athletes in history, Roger Bannister, the first man to run a mile in less than four minutes.

My favorite part of Bannister’s story is what was going on around him as he trained up for the attempt, and what happened after he broke the four minute barrier (emphasis mine).

“So the four-minute barrier stood for decades — and when it fell, the circumstances defied the confident predictions of the best minds in the sport.  The experts believed they knew the precise conditions under which the mark would fall.  It would have to be in perfect weather — 68 degrees and no wind.  On a particular kind of track — hard, dry clay — and in front of a huge, boisterous crowd urging the runner on to his best-ever performance.  But Bannister did it on a cold day, on a wet track, at a small meet in Oxford, England, before a crowd of just a few thousand people.

When Bannister broke the mark, even his most ardent rivals breathed a sigh of relief.  At last, somebody did it! And once they saw it could be done, they did it too.  Just 46 days Bannister’s feat, John Landy, an Australian runner, not only broke the barrier again, with a time of 3 minutes 58 seconds.  Then, just a year later, three runners broke the four-minute barrier in a single race.  Over the last half century, more than a thousand runners have conquered a barrier that had once been considered hopelessly out of reach.”

Harvard Business Review: What Breaking the 4-Minute Mile Taught Us About the Limits of Conventional Thinking (2018/3/9)

What one man can do, another can do!

Bannister’s story reminded me of a line from the 1997 movie, The EdgeIt wasn’t a great movie, but this one line has always stuck out in my mind, “What one man can do, another can do.”  [Language warning.]

No one has taken that principle to heart more ardently than Dave Ramsey.  He’s been featuring a “millionaire theme hour” for years now, and for decades, his radio show (and now YouTube and podcasts) has featured the “debt free scream” in which listeners tell their stories of how they paid off debts.  Many of the story tellers explain that listening to others’ “debt free screams” motivated them to pay off debt.

The message is clear.  “What one man can do, another can do”.  As Nadeane, a YouTube commenter on one of the “debt free screams” put it, “I love seeing under 35s becoming debt free!  It gives me so much hope that I can do it too!  £28,835 left to go!”

Let’s look at a few of these redemption stories in which normal people are doing the supposedly impossible.

Case Study 2 — Jack and Lisa

Jack has a 2-year degree, works as an electronics technician, and has a net worth of $2.3 million at 43 years old. (His story begins at 2:18.)

Case Study 3 — Derek and Ambere

Derek is a tattoo artist and recovering drug addict from Salt Lake City, UT.  When the government forced him to shut down his tattoo shop, Derek relapsed and ended up in jail.  I’ll let him and his wife, Ambere, tell their story.

Case Study 4 — Chris and Amanda

Chris doesn’t say exactly what he used to do when he was young, but given his vague description (I don’t blame him), it sounds gang related.  He and his wife, Amanda, paid off almost $48k in 31 months on a fairly modest income.

Case Study 5 — Paul and Stefanie

This link will take you to the story of Paul and Stefanie at Dave Ramsey’s YouTube channel. Paul is 29, he has a blue collar job, and he lives with his wife, Stefanie (27).  These two pulled off the supposedly impossible trifecta; they got married, paid off student loans, and paid off a house, all in their 20s!  All of that in Tacoma, WA, one of the more expensive places to live in the USA!

I hope Stefanie has an older woman in her life telling her what a catch she has!

Case Study 6 — Tyler and Bre

Tyler and Bre got married right out of high school. They’re both under the age of 25, and they’ve already paid off their house and student loans!


Those are just a few clips that stood out to me, and that’s enough to make my point, but if you want to hear more encouraging stories like these, there are many other stories from people of just about every walk of life on Dave Ramsey’s YouTube channel.

How does this relate to Redemption?

Jack’s emphasis on redemption (the theme for September 2022) led me to the inescapable conclusion that each “debt free scream” is literally a redemption story.  Note how each of these redemption stories starts with confession (“I’m $X in debt”) and repentance (“I’m going to change all my money habits that got me into this mess”).

When King Solomon wrote that “The borrower is slave to the lender” (Proverbs 22:7), he was speaking literally.  In ancient Israel, one way to discharge a debt one could not pay was to serve the lender as a slave for a predetermined amount of time.  During that period of slavery, a relative of the slave could pay his debt and restore him to freedom.  His status as a slave would be wiped away completely.  This act was called redemption, and the relative was known as the redeemer.  This is not the only meaning of redemption, but it’s the meaning Jesus referenced when he described our sin as a debt we could never repay (Matthew 18:21-35).

Jesus was a master story teller.  His parables are short and seemingly simple, yet they contain depths of meaning that one could plumb for a lifetime.

One of the beauties of comparing sin to debt is that when we’re set free from sin, we’re set free to serve God.  Likewise, when we’re set free from debt, we’re set free to build wealth.

Qui Bono?

While we’re at it, I’d encourage you to consider the old Latin saying, “Qui bono?”  Who benefits?

There are three kinds of entities / people / voices that will tell you that striving towards a real life redemption is a hopeless endeavor. Borrowing from Biblical archetypes, I’ll call them Thieves, Tax Collectors, and Prostitutes.

1. Thieves

By “thieves”, I mean hope thieves.  There are a lot of hope thieves out there.  You’ve read and heard the self-proclaimed “best minds”, and “experts” on the internet spout all variations of the following statements.

  • “The American dream is dead.”
  • “The little man can’t get a head.”
  • “Young people can’t get married.”
  • “Millennials can’t afford houses.”
  • “Millennials can’t pay their student loans.”

The message is clear.  “You can’t win, so you may as well not try.”

Hope thieves don’t just steal hope from others, they prevent others from seeking redemption.  They’re like crabs in a bucket.  When one crab starts to pull himself out of the bucket, the others pull him back down.  Hope thieves know that “what one man can do, another can do”, which is why they don’t want you to succeed, because if you succeed, that proves they could succeed too, and that would put them to shame.  They don’t want to change their ways because that would require them to do work they’re unwilling to do.  They don’t want to confess, or repent — and redemption requires confession and repentance.  Hope thieves (A.K.A., crab people) would rather wallow in the mud (which also makes them swine) of self-pity than confess and repent, and since misery loves company, they want you wallowing right next to them.  They’ve thrown themselves a lifelong pity party, and you’re invited.

2. Tax Collectors

I’m using the label “Tax Collector” loosely here to mean anybody that tries to hit you up coming and going.  They’re looking to use you, take what they can from you, and then send you off, preferably without you even knowing that you’ve been conned.  Tax Collectors are ubiquitous and they assiduously keep themselves hidden from critical view.  Google is a great example of a Tax Collector.  They collect all your personal information and sell it to God knows who for a vast amount of money.  They censor search result information and even emails, and you don’t have any inkling of what goes on.  Google benefits* by monitoring start-ups and market dynamics and preventing small fries from amassing market position and wealth.  PayPal is no better.  Banking policies, insurance scams, and student loans would also fall into this category.

* H/T: PA Pundits – International: Why You Should Ditch Google and Gmail — Before It’s Too Late (2022/10/9)

3. Prostitutes

Again, I’m using “prostitutes” loosely to mean anyone or anything that entices you to spend your time and/or money foolishly and distracts you from making progress towards your dreams and goals in life.  Here, “Prostitutes” would include advertisers, Big Pharma, politicians, and any women who are not within your personal domain of influence.  Bad friends would qualify too.  On a more personal note, bad habits (e.g. excessive drinking and smoking), masturbation, rumination, and Simptation will only slow you down.

Introspection and Incentives

Take a moment to think it over.  Who benefits from you believing that “I can’t win, so I may as well not try”?

  • Do you benefit?
  • Do your lazy friends benefit?
  • Does your competition benefit?
  • Does the converged media benefit?
  • Do the crabby hope thieves and swine benefit?
  • Do women who are not within your personal domain of influence benefit?
  • Do politicians who want you to believe you need them to fix your life for you benefit?

Qui Bono? Who benefits?

Jesus said,

“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.”

Matthew 7:6 (NKJV)

Do not give your precious things – your time, your energy, your efforts, the fruits of your labors – to crab people, Hope Thieves, Prostitutes, Tax Collectors, or Swine.

How do you know if a man is a hope thief, a crab person, or a swine? He tells you that what others are doing is impossible and gets angry when you show him that others are doing what he claims is impossible.  He whines about problems, but won’t lift a finger to fix them.  He demands that things outside of his control change, but he won’t change anything within his control.  And, most importantly, when you try to help him, as Jesus said, he will trample your efforts and “turn and tear you to pieces”.

Lastly, I’d encourage you to ask yourself, “Have I been a hope thief for others”?

If so, then don’t be crabby! Or else you’ll drag everyone else around you down.

Note: In addition to dogs and swine, another Biblical typology for this type is “birds of the air”, specifically the blackbird, owl, vulture, and woodpecker.

The Conclusion

The principle of “What one man can do, another can do” applies to every area of life, not just finances.

How do you feel when you hear stories of people doing the supposedly impossible?  Does it inspire you to do the same, or does it make you angry?  Do you think, “If they can do it, I can do it too”, or do you think, “Sure they did it, but I can’t because [insert excuse here]”?

Now, you have a decision to make.  Will you listen to the Hope Thieves, Tax Collectors, and Prostitutes, or will you listen to the people who are doing the supposedly impossible, and think to yourself, “What one man can do, another can do”?

You’ll never improve your life if you surround yourself with crabby people, hope thieves, and swine.  Will you continue to wallow in the mud of self-pity with them, or will you surround yourself with people that are already doing what you want to do?

It’s time to identify the crabs, dogs, swine, and vultures in your life and do some house cleaning.

It’s your life, your decision, and your consequences.

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33 Responses to What One Man Can Do, Another Can Do

  1. Maniac says:

    Praying that I can forgive those who have hurt me and move onto bigger and better spiritual and temporal things.

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    • Oscar says:

      Thank you for bringing up the subject of forgiveness, and letting go of bitterness.

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    • info says:

      Indeed. Every prayer is a call for Artillery. May God clear away obstacles and enemy en masse. So that all our problems become manageable.

      In a real life examples the Conquistadors and the American settlement in North America had their obstacles cleared away by disease.

      By providence God handed over their lands to his people from Europe. By cutting the problems down to size.

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  2. Jack says:

    Oscar’s essay is directed towards every day people who are just too faithless, too hypoagentic, or too lazy to get off their bums and take action — which is most people. It should be mentioned that there really are some people who are totally incapable of pulling themselves out of the crab bucket they’re in. People like this really do need a redeemer, whether it be Christ, the church, or a faithful friend. IMO, too much charity has been taken over by the State as a type of surrogate Christ. This task is better left to the church, to the family, to specialized organizations, or to capable individuals who have the calling to help others.

    When considering offering help to a person like this, there are a few necessary conditions before proceeding.

    1) The person should be within one’s domain of authority and influence.
    2) Falling under (1), it is important to establish the boundaries, conditions, expectations, and responsiblities up front. Having some kind of strategy may be wise.
    3) You must see real evidence of conviction, confession, and repentance, not just someone looking for a free handout.
    4) One should only offer help if he is convicted by the Holy Spirit to do so.

    Otherwise, without all four of these conditions being firmly in place, any effort basically amounts to throwing your pearls to swine.

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  3. Red Pill Apostle says:

    “It’s your life, your decision, and your consequences.”

    While there are going to be some things that are obviously outside the bounds of reality, by far the largest barrier to accomplishment in life is nestled comfortably between our ears.

    “The man who thinks he can and the man who thinks he can’t are both right.” ~ Henry Ford

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  4. feeriker says:

    Without looking at any of Dave Ramsey’s videos linked above, I will guarantee you that every last one of the wives that make up those couples consists of a Proverbs 31 woman. No woman — especially no young Western woman — outside of that spiritual framework is capable of thrift, patience, deferred gratification, self-sacrifice, obedience to her husband, and every other trait necessary to achieve what these couples have achieved. As rare as such women are, I’m amazed that Ramsey was able to find five of them.

    I can tell you from practical experience that most married men will have an extraordinarily difficult time achieving the freedom from debt and wealth accumulation that are described in the five case studies above. While it’s not incredibly difficult to do in practice for the average man, it is EXCEEDINGLY DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE to do if a man isn’t married to a Proverbs 31 wife.

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    • redpillboomer says:

      Even married to a Proverbs 31 woman it’s still not easy. Generally speaking, this type of woman is a homemaker or has a part-time job of some sort or a home business. She can help her husband manage the money, particularly by managing her spending habits. He’s still got to discipline himself to 1) Make the money, and 2) Pay down the debt over time which almost always requires sacrifices, like limited “fun stuff” with meager discretionary spending money available in the budget. A lot of couples can’t do this.

      I know one couple, they were making real progress in this direction, sold their house and made good money on the sale which should have let them accelerate the debt loss. Instead, he decided he didn’t want work for a while, the wife is pregnant and due soon, and she related to me that she was concerned because the “house sale money” was going pretty fast. IOW, the discipline to reduce debt went right out the window the minute they had discretionary money again; on her part to a degree, but according to her, it was her husband who made a “bee-line” for easy street.

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      • Jack says:

        “IOW, the discipline to reduce debt went right out the window the minute they had discretionary money again…”

        This is a common mentality of the lower class. If they have enough money to pay the bills each month, then they think they’re financially solvent. And whenever they think they are financially solvent (which they are not), then convenience, fun leisure, lifestyle, and spurious self-interests are prioritized over reinforcing financial stability. This is why they remain lower class. It becomes a stronghold when they think they have to have these things in order to maintain the psychological sense of security that is ruined by being financially insolvent / unstable. IOW, they’re too poor to think straight.

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      • info says:

        @redpillboomer

        That’s why said women marrying older “made men” who have it together is a better bet since he has proven himself capable to delaying gratification and working towards a steady income.

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      • Oscar says:

        @ Jack

        When you grow up poor, you’re constantly surrounded by crabby people. They want to pull you down, because your success is evidence that they could have succeeded too. It isn’t some nebulous “they” keeping them down, it’s their own choices and decisions.

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    • Red Pill Apostle says:

      Not true feeriker … Mrs. A fought me quite a bit for months on paying off debt until she saw it could be in her interests. When she realized she could get more of what she wanted when we didn’t have payments, she went along with me.

      Her primary motives back then were not to do good to me and my family, they were more on the self-serving side. Now, she is very grateful we spent a couple years “living like no one else” because of all the benefits, but it was not an easy process to get her on board back in the day.

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    • redpillboomer says:

      “No woman — especially no young Western woman — outside of that spiritual framework is capable of thrift, patience, deferred gratification, self-sacrifice, obedience to her husband, and every other trait necessary to achieve what these couples have achieved.”

      It seems that despite the “strong independent woman making her own way in the world” narrative that many young Western women follow in their twenties, the ladies sexual strategy seems to be that at some point in their late twenties, a man will show up who will have done all of that “Ramsey stuff” during his twenties into his thirties, that will allow her to achieve what Ramsey is pushing young couples to do. IOW, she doesn’t need to do that stuff, just “enjoy life” in her twenties, then she’ll just marry into the “Ramsey narrative” when it’s time to “settle down.”

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      • feeriker says:

        “IOW, she doesn’t need to do that stuff, just “enjoy life” in her twenties, then she’ll just marry into the “Ramsey narrative” when it’s time to “settle down.”

        Fortunately, most of those few men who are able to succeed at a relatively young age and build fortunes for themselves recognize these women as the predatory parasites that they are and are avoiding them like the plague. Their snag-Mr.-Beta-Bux strategy has become too well known and too obvious to be an effective trap anymore.

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      • Jack says:

        “IOW, she doesn’t need to do that stuff, just “enjoy life” in her twenties, then she’ll just marry into the “Ramsey narrative” when it’s time to “settle down.”

        Yes, this is exactly what we found from our study of Women’s Agency. They’ll avoid exercising agency like the plague. Women need to learn that it is maturity / agency that makes them marriageable, among other things.

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      • locustsplease says:

        Women will tell you right to your face, “What’s the point in having money if I can’t spend it?!?” You can’t build anything with a woman like that. I agree the stories are primarily about the women’s role. If you try to control her spending… You go to jail. She sells all your belongings on Craigslist and hits the road. This is what she would b advised to do. Most men are frugal and not in any financial state they need Dave for.

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      • Oscar says:

        I’ve recommended to all my older kids that they go through Financial Peace University with their boyfriend/girlfriend before the relationship gets serious.

        There are several subjects on which spouses have to agree to have a happy marriage. Money is one of them. Most people avoid those tough conversations before marriage, then they wonder why they’re miserable in marriage.

        Obviously, people can lie, and often do, but if you don’t have the conversation at all you pretty much guarantee yourself misery.

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      • Oscar says:

        “Women will tell you right to your face, “What’s the point in having money if I can’t spend it?!?” You can’t build anything with a woman like that.”

        Exactly. So, don’t marry a woman like that. Set the expectations early in the relationship (before marriage), and if she says something like “What’s the point in having money if I can’t spend it?!?”, run!

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      • Lastmod says:

        “I’ve recommended to all my older kids that they go through Financial Peace University with their boyfriend/girlfriend before the relationship gets serious.”

        Yes, a few dates. A few more dates. “I really like you! Let’s go through the Financial Peace University to see if you will a good wife and match for my life goals.”

        Taking a class like this while “dating” isn’t exactly being a man and having “fun” and giving her the tingles, making her laugh.

        So what happens when she doesn’t like some of the classes? So what happens when you have a date, but have “homework” for this class? What happens if even AFTER the class you both decide “It’s not working. We’re not a match”

        What happens if you have a disagreement about baby-step 2 over 3? Dump her? Kick her to the curb?

        A gazillion red flags today for a man to “run” from. You guys? Nah…. Didn’t have to do any of that. Your natural leadership made her into a good wife.

        What happens when, as a man, you are spinning plates and dating two or more gals…… Are you spending all your time going to “Financial Peace University” with all of them?

        No. No one here did that, but per usual….. It’s expected “everyone else” has to go through this. You guys of course didn’t have to do this when you were dating. Yes, many of you probably did this after you were married. But you didn’t really need to. You had it all figured out when you were six.

        Most of the people on Dave Ramsey’s show have already been married for a bit, and most are upper-middle class, white, nominally Christian. (They go to the not-real-Christian churchian churches you all evidently hate.)

        Besides… No man should be getting married until a man can have an excellent career by age 23, buy a house, have the future children’s college fund saved for, be a leader in the church, have a gazillion hobbies, and still have the leisure time off work that would be necessary to date all these amazing women that are everywhere.

        [Jack: Minor editing for clarity.]

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      • locustsplease says:

        @Oscar,
        Any woman I have in the future all money I give her will b considered WAM. I would never marry a woman like that but in our society it seems dominant and the rest of the men I see are with such women. They are extremely vain and only want to save to buy vanity items in the future. My father could have never built his wealth with out a long period of singleness 20 years in between. All the women he married are like lighting your home on fire.

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      • Oscar says:

        “What happens if even AFTER the class you both decide “It’s not working. We’re not a match.”?”

        Obviously, you break up. That’s the point.

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      • Oscar says:

        “I would never marry a woman like that but in our society it seems dominant and the rest of the men I see are with such women. They are extremely vain and only want to save to buy vanity items in the future.”

        You don’t marry one of those. Ever. That’s why I advise my kids to go through FPU with anyone with whom they’re considering getting serious. Anyone who has that mentality would run away at the mere suggestion, thereby doing you a favor.

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  5. Oscar says:

    As usual, Jack greatly improved my writing. I can’t take credit for all of that. His addition of the tax collectors, prostitutes, and birds of the air was inspired.

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  6. dave sora says:

    Sirach 36:21 KJV
    A woman will receive every man, yet is one daughter better than another.

    Yep, what one man can do so can another. Says so right there.

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    • Lastmod says:

      Sirach 36:21 KJV
      A woman will receive every man, yet is one daughter better than another.

      “Yep, what one man can do so can another. Says so right there.”

      Huh?

      It says nothing about “What one man can do another man can do.” That simply isn’t the case. Also, the Apocrypha is not supposedly divinely inspired, or it would not have been excluded into a separate section. Lots of mysticism, dragons, spells, stuff that sounds more Buddhist or Hindu than Christian.

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      • Jack says:

        “…the Apocrypha is not supposedly divinely inspired, or it would not have been excluded into a separate section.”

        Personally, I believe that divine inspiration happens during the reading, as well as during the writing. You need both to get the message across. Even so, a spiritually minded person can be inspired by reading many things not divinely inspired in the writing.

        Anyway, a brief history of the Apocrypha is in order.

        St. Jerome included The Apocrypha in the Latin Vulgate, though separately to denote them as not equal to Scripture proper.

        In a counter-Reformation move, the Roman Catholic church at the Council of Trent (1546) made an official declaration that the Apocrypha was henceforth to be regarded as Scripture.

        All King James Bibles published before 1666 included the Apocrypha.

        Around 1828, these books were taken out of the Bible.

        “Lots of mysticism, dragons, spells, stuff that sounds more Buddhist or Hindu than Christian.”

        One of the greatest faults of modern Christianity is its faithless refusal to entertain a belief in metaphysical reality. Apparently, the Enlightenment served to discredit the Apocrypha in people’s minds, because people believed in “Science” more than metaphysical reality. Other religions have not made this fatal mistake.

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      • info says:

        @Jack

        The Apocrypha hasn’t been Canon for a long time:
        https://www.tektonics.org/lp/otcanon.php

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  7. Oscar says:

    This is appropriate here.

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