If she loves you, then she’ll be a pain in the @ss!

Appearances can be deceiving.

Readership: Men; Single Men;
Theme: Dating and the SMP
Length: 2,000 words
Reading Time: 7 minutes

Introduction

Earlier this month, I told a little story that compared the general impression of women who are socially smooth and sexed up, with those who are awkward and innocent. The story went like this.

“[Back in 2001], I started attending a new church. The first couple Sundays, there were two college aged girls who took the opportunity to approach me and get to know me better. They were very friendly and we talked a long while, so at first, I thought they were expressing an interest in me. But after I became more acquainted with the people there, I discovered that these two girls already had steady boyfriends who were not regular church attendees. Those girls never told me this; it was the Pastor’s wife. For some reason, having a boyfriend gave these girls the confidence to talk to other men. As time went on, I learned that there were other girls who were single and interested in me, but they didn’t have the confidence to approach me. The only clue they gave off is that they became really animated and frighteningly giggly and silly whenever we were interacting. Nobody at all told me that these girls were interested in me. I only figured it out when a couple other guys started c0ck blocking me.

The thing I learned from this experience is that women who are more confident, forward, and relaxed about meeting men are usually already taken, and that is precisely why they are more confident, forward, and relaxed. So it’s rather unrealistic to expect a single woman who is interested in you to initiate and do the pursuing. (Deti has pointed out that this is exactly what they should be doing, and I agree, but I think women aren’t going to do that, so it’s probably more practical for men to learn how to detect IOIs.)”

FrankChalmers2061 commented that…

“…“frighteningly giggly and silly” girls often may be good wife material, but you wouldn’t notice because they can’t control themselves quite yet.”

Ahh… Yessirree! The ditzy girl with the bird nest hair who is the star blithering buffoon of the church luncheon is the diamond in the rough who has the best potential of becoming a homemaking, hubby loving, treasure of flesh in the bed chamber. Wife her up and humble her thrice daily with regular mattress hammering; shape her by giving her moral based feedback, and she will be putty in your paws… and… she will be grateful!!!

Appearances can be Deceiving

Some girls are a Pain In The @ss (PITA), and when I say this, I don’t mean contentious and b!tchy. I mean the girl is woefully awkward, “frighteningly giggly and silly”, perhaps clingy, and frequently “over the top” with emotions and behaviors that come off as childish, embarrassing, or inappropriate. It would serve the common man better not to hold these behaviors against the girl in question, but rather to interpret these PITA behaviors as authentic, innocent, cute, and endearing.

It is extremely rare to find a woman who has never been “married” (viz. sexed up) and is not a PITA in some way, shape, or form. However, the pure, innocent PITA girl is an embarassment to a wickedly wizened society. Social forces and women’s generalized need for attention and inclusion pushes young women to grow past their girlish PITA behaviors ASAP.

Instead, a sexed up society adores the salacious, slick, socially dexterous dame. This is why there is a mad rush to send all nubile young women off to college before they marry. It is assumed, but never ever stated, that sexperience is necessary to impart a level of sophistication and suave that betrays a self-awareness of carnal knowledge, and this is valued more than sexual purity and the sanctity of marriage. The fact that this sexually astute collection of traits comes at the cost of her innocence and future marital contentment is either deftly dismissed or swept under the carpet.

The slick, sophisticated, executive power dame.

The problem here for men, especially younger, inexperienced men, is manifold.

  1. Internally, they naturally desire a woman who is already turn-key mature, sexed up, and polished, and they don’t really understand how she got that way.
  2. Externally, they’re getting the cultural message that slick, sexed up women are the idealized norm.
  3. To make matters worse, young men are strongly encouraged to take up with such a woman, even one with a kid in tow, and women themselves are the strongest proponents of this.

Thus, it is too easy for them to fall for the notion that a suave, sophisticated, socially skilled woman who presents herself well should naturally be easier to get along with and a better choice overall. But they don’t realize that this is only an external appearance. Once a man gets into a relationship with her, it is revealed that it’s all a mirage, and that the inner qualities that form a good wife have already been spoiled.

But the good thing about the PITA is that what you see is what you get. This is a benefit to marriage minded men, because the task cut out for moulding them into wives is clearly evident. There is no emotional baggage, and no shroud of vain pretenses that must be inveigled before getting down to the business of establishing moral feedback loops and trust.

Marriage and having children will also shape out the PITA; not because of any effort on her own part, but because husbands do the hard work of moulding their belovedly quirky PITA girls into wondrous wives. In addition, marriage and having children induces humility and maturity by giving a woman an intense culmination of purpose, responsibility, security, and status that allows her to face up to her foibles and frustrations within an environment of love and trust. Another way to state all this is that marriage and childbearing are the vehicles of God’s grace bestowed on women.

So it’s critically important for marriage minded men of faith to detect and sort out the differences.

Isn’t it amazing what the imbuement of masculine sexual authority can do to a woman?

Sorting out the Differences

The basic task of differentiating between the PITA and the incorporated witch with a B lies not in how crazy she appears, but in discerning how much Heart Trust she conveys, and how humble she truly is. The PITA is obviously crazy, but also honest and trusting, and more or less frightened and unsure of herself; whereas the sparkling B witch hides her craziness behind a smooth outward velour; she defies and resists trust, and resorts to female evasion and control tactics in order to do so.

When a woman truly falls in love with a man, her inner heart is exposed, and her trust and respect come to the forefront. As a byproduct, her crazy inner self also comes out too. So if a girl is a raving PITA around you, there’s a good chance that she actually loves you!

Moreover, this phenomenon is rather nuanced and subject to context, so to make this a little clearer to all our readers, I’ll draw a comparison between women of different ages and statuses.

In the larger view, if a woman is a PITA, it suggests that she’s truly single and has never had her holy of holies conquered by a man – but this is not always the case. Some PITA chicks suffer from poor breeding, or growing up without a father.

A young girl (~18-22) is a PITA because of her immaturity. One who’s totally innocent and sexually pure will be naïvely optimistic about life and love and very clumsy when pulling off any feminine control tactics. In spite of all the troubles and headaches these lasses bring, even so, this is the best PITA to have.

A more mature unmarried woman (~23-27) will be looking for Tingle thrills, the “love” of high SMV men, and affirmation. There are two subtypes.

  1. If this type of woman is giving you Head Trust (but not Heart Trust) and being a PITA, giving you S#!t tests, etc., then that’s a bad sign that she’s not really into you and is probably trying to control you for her own prerogatives.
  2. If this type of woman is giving you Heart Trust, and you happen to hit her needs just right, then her heartlights will come on. IOW, she’ll feel humbled, get possessive, and start to think of you as her own. In this case, if she is being a jealous PITA and giving you S#!t tests, that’s probably a good sign that you’ve got her heart in a sling and that she really loves you.

By the time a woman nears the wall (~28-32), her personality has been set in stone, and any last remaining PITA behaviors have completed their transition into contentious b!tchyness. This transition is accelerated if she’s abused herself sexually and has accumulated any emotional baggage. In the extreme case, it’s possible that she’s an alpha widowed ex carousel rider whose been used and abused for a long while.

In addition to this, her biological clock makes her a PITA on warp speed.

Because of their age and past sexperience, many of these women have learned to manage the most egregious aspects of their inner PITA, and as a result, they might seem very easy to get along with. But do not be deceived, dear brothers, for whatsoever a woman sows, that shall she also reap. After marriage, the full brunt force of her self-abuses for the past decade will finally come home to roost on the poor hubby she settled for.

Married women may also have PITA-like behaviors that often take the form of hyperdrama and sh!t tests. Most husbands interpret these behaviors as bothersome and emotionally taxing. But care should be taken to identify the underlying nature of these behaviors. Most of the time, wives will do these things to garner attention and/or control the man. But sometimes, wives are not specifically out to manipulate their husbands by being a PITA, they’re just being their natural naughty selves, and they trust their husbands enough to let their inner PITA come through. This is actually a good sign for the relationship, as this is an impressionable moment that wise husbands can use to teach and mould their wives.

For those women who don’t appear to meet the description of a PITA, here are some reasons why this might be.

  1. You just don’t know her that well yet.
  2. She doesn’t trust you enough to let her inner PITA show through.
  3. She’s a master of the Machiavellian arts.
  4. She doesn’t have a very strong emotional/sexual need (e.g. a low libido), and this could be because (1) it’s her natural hormone condition, or (2) she’s stoked up on hormonal birth control, or (3) she’s already passed herself through the fire (a metaphor for the thorough exhaustion or depletion of their innate sexual desire by promiscuity, carousel riding, etc. AKA being dissipated, sexually burned out, or jaded).
  5. She actually comes from a good quality home, and she has a good relationship with her father and/or Jesus.

Thou must discern wisely, my son!

Conclusions

When a woman truly falls in love with a man, her inner heart is exposed, and her trust and respect come to the forefront. When a woman really trusts a man, then she doesn’t feel a strong need to hide her quirks and foibles in fear of being rejected by him. As a byproduct, her authentic, crazy inner self comes out, much to the man’s chagrin. So if a girl is a raving PITA around you, there’s a good chance that she’s fresh and ready to be moulded by masculine love!

Young men should avoid chasing after shiny, smooth, well-polished examples of femininity, because women like this are already “married” in the colloquial sense. That is to say, they’ve already been hammered into shape by a man (or men), and this is what has refined them.

To have the best chances at marriage, a man has to do the hard work of hammering his own woman into shape. So choose one that is valuable raw material, one that is soft and malleable, and not already emotion/heart-hardened in the forge of sexperience.

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42 Responses to If she loves you, then she’ll be a pain in the @ss!

  1. redpillboomer says:

    “Young men should avoid chasing after shiny, smooth, well-polished examples of femininity, because women like this are already “married” in the colloquial sense. That is to say, they’ve already been hammered into shape by a man (or men), and this is what has refined them.

    To have the best chances at marriage, a man has to do the hard work of hammering his own woman into shape. So choose one that is valuable raw material, one that is soft and malleable, and not already emotion/heart-hardened in the forge of sexperience.”

    This is what I found to be true when I selected the 21 year old girl over the 29 year old girl. The 29 year old had already been hammered into shape by men while riding the CC, and she had issues. I didn’t see these easily at first because she was able to ‘act’ like she had not been emotionally damaged by men. However, after awhile, I noticed I was dealing with TWO different women in her. One was the friendly, flirty, fun version and the other was a ‘psychotic B.’ The 21 year old was a PITA in some ways, but quite mouldable.

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  2. Red Pill Apostle says:

    Forget molding a wife as you are late to the game at that point. You start by molding her when she is your girlfriend as it’s much easier and less risky. Set your boundaries and expectations and then gently correct her behavior when she exceeds them. If she responds well to your guidance over an extended period of time (at least a year) you may have a good one. DeepStrength has written extensively about this so I won’t rehash the points here, but it suffices to say that if you are dating a PITA and she is obstinate in her PITAness when you gently push back on her behavior, you are playing with fire.

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    • Oscar says:

      There’s no Biblical requirement for a woman to submit to a man before they’re married, but if she’s rebellious before marriage, it’ll only get worse after marriage.

      In other words, she’s not required to submit, but he’s not required to marry her, either.

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      • “There’s no Biblical requirement for a woman to submit to a man before they’re married, but if she’s rebellious before marriage, it’ll only get worse after marriage.

        In other words, she’s not required to submit, but he’s not required to marry her, either.”

        Exactly. Should be its own post. I’ll write it up.

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  3. feeriker says:

    “However, the pure, innocent PITA girl is an embarassment to a wickedly wizened society. Social forces and women’s generalized need for attention and inclusion pushes young women to grow past their girlish PITA behaviors ASAP.”

    Paradoxically, even as society feigns seriousness it simultaneously encourages the indefinite extension of adolescence. This leads to a vast population of “adultolescents playing adults,” with women in particular affecting an air of SIW while behaving like spoiled, emotion-addled teenagers. The worst of both worlds.

    “The slick, sophisticated, executive power dame.”

    In other words, a woman trying to be a man, consciously or not. This seems to be the sexual archetype that modern emasculated and feminized men in the western world dream of in a woman, very likely in no small measure as a subconscious desire to reclaim the lost masculinity within themselves. This is also the type of woman who “doesn’t take ‘no’ for an answer”, and who turns into a ferocious and vindictive demonatrix should any man resist (or be repulsed by) her powers. Sadly, this type is both intensely cultivated and ubiquitous, whereas the ditzy, shy, girlish type is both discouraged and relatively rare.

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    • Jack says:

      “Paradoxically, even as society feigns seriousness it simultaneously encourages the indefinite extension of adolescence. This leads to a vast population of “adultolescents playing adults,” with women in particular affecting an air of SIW while behaving like spoiled, emotion-addled teenagers. The worst of both worlds.”

      “The slick, sophisticated, executive power dame.”

      “In other words, a woman trying to be a man, consciously or not.”

      It seems like men are preferred the world over. In Asia, the sex skew in abortions leading to a larger number of males in the population reflects the strong preference for males. Here in Taiwan, I know many families who have 4-5 daughters because they kept trying for a son. I also know families that have 2-3 sons and no daughters, which suggests that they’ve probably used abortion to arrive at that ratio. Moreover, people are rather honest about their preference for sons. They don’t try to change women into men.

      But the west is rather diabolical in their preference for males, or rather, Masculinity. (Abortion is used indiscriminate of the sex of the baby, but is instead based on how the mother feeelz about having a child.) They try to change women into men. Women are strongly pressured to become and behave masculine. They are pressured to adopt attitudes and engage in behaviors that sap the femininity within them, such as SIW mantras, pursuing higher education, engaging in extramarital sex, and so on. People parrot the liberal narratives and are dishonest about their preferences for gender expression (favoring masculinity) and race too. Masculinity must be blended with feminine characteristics. All in all, it erases the image of God in humanity.

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      • Oscar says:

        “Abortion is used indiscriminate of the sex of the baby, but is instead based on how the mother feeelz about having a child.”

        They’re both based on feelz. It just so happens that in Asia it’s based on how the couple feelz about having a girl vs. having a boy.

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      • elspeth says:

        The willful murder of innocents is evil; no matter the reason. “Boys are more useful than girls” is no more righteous than “I’m not ready to be a mother.” Asian abortion is not better than American abortion.

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      • info says:

        It’s really wicked. The use of abortion to distort the God intended sex ratios. Christianity along with Islam and Judaism are the only ones to forbid abortion and resulting natural sex ratios.

        No doubt contributing to various sexual perversions too.

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      • info says:

        @elspeth,

        Even under utilitarian circumstances, if one has daughters, then one also gets to help choose son’s-in-law along with a bride price, if a culture has that.

        I think a bride price outside of the influence of Christianity is one of the only ways to counterbalance the incentives for abortion of daughters among non-believers.

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      • Oscar says:

        @ info,

        Don’t take Muslims at their word in moral matters. As I’ve said many times before, Muslim men are the most disgustingly sexually immoral people I’ve ever had the displeasure of encountering. Likewise, Muslim countries’ sex ratios are imbalanced because Muslims prefer male children.

        Statistics Times: List of Countries by Sex Ratio (2021-9-8)

        What do you think they’re doing with all those girls?

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      • info says:

        @Oscar

        I checked the states of the sex ratio at birth in Muslim Countries. It is very near the 1.05 males per females biological norm.

        So I suspect it’s the honor killings and importation of workers/slaves that is skewing the sex ratio, especially in Saudi Arabia.

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      • info says:

        @Oscar

        In India, the Dowry, which is paid by the wife’s and woman’s family to the Husband, contributes to many murders.

        In this respect, it is proven that the absence of a dowry and presence of the bride price improves girls’ and women’s chances of survival at birth and at marriage, as it goes to show in Muslim countries. It can only go so far without faith in Jesus Christ.

        Aside from Jews that manage to keep their sex ratios quite normal.

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      • Oscar says:

        @ info

        From the link I shared.

        “Qatar has the highest sex ratio, with three males per woman, followed by the United Arab Emirates, having 222 men per 100 women. Third-ranked Oman, too, has almost two males per woman. The top three and Bahrain, Maldives, and Kuwait have male to female ratio above 150. In the list of top ten countries having the highest males/females, eight countries belong to Asia and two to Africa.”

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      • OKRickety says:

        Jack,

        “Here in Taiwan, I know many families who have 4-5 daughters because they kept trying for a son. I also know families that have 2-3 sons and no daughters, which suggests that they’ve probably used abortion to arrive at that ratio.”

        What? While abortion for gender selection may truly be common there, isn’t it rather illogical, even ridiculous, to presume those in the latter group likely used abortion when the statistical probability of 4 daughters/0 sons, 1 in 16, is significantly lower than the 1 in 8 for 3 sons/0 daughters? Supposing no abortion was involved, if you know many of the former scenario, you will likely know at least some of the latter one. [Note: If anyone cares, the odds of 5 daughters/0 sons is 1 in 32, and of 2 sons/0 daughters is 1 in 4.]

        Now, if you know many more families with all sons than you do families with all daughters, your anecdotal support for the likelihood of sex-selection by abortion is much greater. But that’s not how you worded it, so I have my doubts. I presume there is statistical evidence to show that sex selection by abortion happens regularly.

        I know that diverges from your point but I’m always bothered when I see lack of coherence in an argument.

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      • Jack says:

        OKRickety, et al.,
        Sorry for the confusion. I should add the following information.
        — Taiwan, like many other Asian countries, favors male offspring.
        — Abortion is legal and is viewed as an elective medical procedure.
        — A couple young men have told me that their mothers had an abortion when they found out it was a girl.
        — I knew one young woman who said her husband asked her to get an abortion when they found out it was a girl.
        — Parents who have 4-5 daughters had children before the advent of ultrasound (about 20 years ago), which allows the sex of the fetus to be determined.
        — Since the advent of ultrasound, there are very few families with 4-5 daughters.
        — Parents with 4-5 daughters will openly state that they were trying for a son. It’s often worded as a humorous apology.

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      • Red Pill Apostle says:

        I’ll second OKRickety. My father is one of 4 brothers. I have a brother. I have 2 sons and my brother has 2 sons. The only women in our immediate family married into it. Sometimes that’s just how the numbers work out. In my family we’ve been blessed in that we will completely avoid parenting during teenaged daughter years. According to some of our friends, “teenaged daughter years” somehow warp the space-time continuum in such a way that fathers age faster. 😉

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      • cameron232 says:

        We have 6 boys and 2 girls, and we had 4 boys in a row. My wife has a hypothesis that some women’s chemistry is friendlier to male or female swimmers. Her sister has 4 girls.

        My older daughter is 16 and never gives us any difficulty, but she is homeschooled.

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      • elspeth says:

        Our girls didn’t give us any trouble as teenagers. But they are well aware of what their dad expects and what he would and would not put up with.

        Same as my dad. My sister moved out as soon as she graduated high school at 17. Because she knew the ONLY freedom she would have to do as she felt was under her own roof.

        Girls don’t have to be problematic. My husband was raised in a house full of brothers. He says that they were no walk in the park for his parents.

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      • info says:

        @Oscar

        For the same and similar reason to the UAE. Imported Male workers mostly.

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      • info says:

        “Most expats (who came mainly from South Asian countries) are male skilled workers who left their families back home in hopes of providing them a better life and seeking a greener pasture.

        The Ministry is a little conservative on giving VISAs for females from selected countries compared to the US, Canada, and various EU countries.
        Qatar is still predominantly Muslim meaning despite its openness in terms of tourism, it’s still one of the most conservative territories in the Middle East. Most of the locals (and even residents) are either married or single as dating doesn’t exist legally in the law.”

        I Love Qatar: Why are there more men than women in Qatar? (2018-10-23)

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      • Oscar says:

        @ info

        You’re not going to find statistics on how many Muslims in Muslim countries kill their kids in the womb. Just like you won’t find statistics on how many kids they make with female domestic servants, who they then abandon, which means the kids are born with no official parentage, which means they have no citizenship.

        I don’t mean that they have no Kuwaiti, or Qatari, or UAE citizenship. I mean they have no citizenship anywhere. There’s an entire population in ME countries of illegitimate people who officially do not exist.

        Muslims are great at putting up a moral front. The reality is very different. And you won’t find it on sites that call themselves names like “I love Qatar”. You have to actually spend time there to see it.

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      • cameron232 says:

        My two older boys are REALLY well behaved but my 4 boys in a row are a PITA. A lot of it is caused by my 5th who is very much more dominant than any of the other kids and likes to compete, to fight, to push buttons. God bless SAM’s mother. Boys can be very hard.

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      • info says:

        @Oscar

        “Muslims are great at putting up a moral front. The reality is very different. And you won’t find it on sites that call themselves names like “I love Qatar”. You have to actually spend time there to see it.”

        I cannot truly find evidence of an abnormal sex ratio at birth in the link you sent me.

        And we cannot rule out heavily male foreign workers skewing the sex ratio dramatically. Aside from the skew from honor killings that would likely occur.

        But as for what you say about them, I definitely agree.

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      • info says:

        @Oscar,
        To bring your family on resident visa, the individual’s salary must be more than QAR10K. (See the link to Dependent and Family Visa Rules Doha Qatar below.) Most of the blue collar expats earn less than this.

        The rent costs are also exorbitantly high. For a family, one needs to rent an apartment exclusively. However if the individual is on his own, he can share the apartment with others.

        This is why the number of males are more than the number of females.

        Online Qatar: Dependent and family visa information (2019-3-21)

        “Qatar is completely dependent on imported labour. These job opportunities are mostly on the lower end of the scale, but are, in all categories, handsomely paid by the standards of the country of origin of most migrant workers. A construction worker may easily make two thousand USD a month (and maybe 10% of that a month), and, on the upper range, a Western professional can easily rake in 20.000 a month.

        But the work is far from home and, on the lower end, back breaking and exposed to extreme weather conditions. Workers’ rights are tenuous at best, and even professionals from the West can have their visas revoked at the whim of their employers. The rights they do have are a function of pure, unadulterated labour market supply and demand. Stories of abuse abound.”

        Quora: Why is the sex ratio in Qatar two males to every female? (2017-12-26)

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      • Oscar says:

        @ info,

        I’m not arguing that the unbalanced sex ratios in the ME have nothing to do with foreign workers. I’ve spent enough time there to have seen them. I’m arguing that one would have to be naive to believe that Muslims in Muslim countries don’t practice sex-selective abortions.

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      • info says:

        “I’m arguing that one would have to be naive to believe that Muslims in Muslim countries don’t practice sex-selective abortions.”

        I agree. I think it does happen. It’s unfortunate that the lack of data on this subject in Muslim countries makes it hard to prove overall.

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  4. anonymous_ng says:

    Rule number one, in most areas, however things are when dating, they are unlikely to get better after getting married.

    When you’re dating, it’s easy enough to put on a smile for a couple of hours during a date, but once married, people decide that it is no longer necessary to control their countenance, and instead, when they aren’t feeling well, just let their discomfort out for everyone else to enjoy.

    If she’s a PITA when dating, what possible reason would prompt her to be less so once married when, if things don’t work out, she gets cash and prizes?

    When I think about a woman that’s a PITA, I conclude that she’s immature and undisciplined and thus not marriage material. Certainly, the right man might be able to tame her, but who needs that kind of hassle?

    It’s like this: if her car looks like a couple of bums live out of it, throw her back. If her house looks like the city dump, move on. If she regularly goes out of the house in sweats and no makeup, unless that’s all the more you want from a woman, keep looking.

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    • Jack says:

      “When I think about a woman that’s a PITA, I conclude that she’s immature and undisciplined and thus not marriage material.”

      I see what you’re saying, and I agree that being immature and undisciplined is not a good sign. But the point I wish to make in this post is that every woman is a PITA, but a woman who is more authentic and inexperienced is more likely to let it show through. A woman who is more refined probably got that way from having more experience with men. Of course, this is a general statement. It’s not always true in every case, so a man has to consider each woman on a case by case basis.

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  5. redpillboomer says:

    “Instead, a sexed up society adores the salacious, slick, socially dexterous dame. This is why there is a mad rush to send all nubile young women off to college before they marry. It is assumed, but never ever stated, that sexperience is necessary to impart a level of sophistication and suave that betrays a self-awareness of carnal knowledge, and this is valued more than sexual purity and the sanctity of marriage. The fact that this sexually astute collection of traits comes at the cost of her innocence and future marital contentment is either deftly dismissed or swept under the carpet.”

    This is really demonstrated by the Tik Toks I’ve been seeing lately. I get them on my Facebook page as ‘reels’ and most are various examples of the “salacious, slick, socially dexterous dame.” Seems like most of these women are 25 and older, occasionally younger, doing various dance routines to song clips of popular dance music, i.e. the song Fancy Like, and those types of tunes; catchy, bouncy stuff, not necessarily great songs (if there is even anything like “great music” being made nowadays).

    What actually catches my eye, and is related to the quote above, is when the younger women get on there, mostly teens and early twenties, and they are already “salacious, slick, socially dexterous dames” that just haven’t matriculated yet out of their prime (18-24). To even get what Jack describes as “…“frighteningly giggly and silly” girls often may be good wife material, but you wouldn’t notice because they can’t control themselves quite yet”, you have to drop down to the under 18 girls, usually on the ‘reels’ performing dance routines with their mother and siblings. Their is still an innocence about them, HOWEVER you can already begin to see the creep of our sex saturated culture beginning to mold them, the initial giveaway being that they’re showing too much skin (belly buttons, legs, etc.).

    I’ve read about this phenomenon, the overly sexed pre-teens and even down into childhood (the Joan Benet Ramsey types), but it took me SEEING it on the Tik Toks on FB to really begin to get a grasp of it. AND the moms, the late twenty something moms into the early forty something moms, are right there with their girl children. I mean down to dressing THOT like together, short shorts, etc. I’m like, “What the he!! happened to letting little girls be little girls?” You know, running around on playgrounds and climbing jungle gyms (if they even allow them to do that anymore).

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    • Oscar says:

      “AND the moms, the late twenty something moms into the early forty something moms, are right there with their girl children. I mean down to dressing THOT like together, short shorts, etc.”

      As I’ve been saying for years, it’s almost always the mom. Who dresses 11-year-old girls like THOTs? Obviously, 11-year-olds don’t have their own money, much less buy their own clothes. It’s the moms.

      Who encourages their kids (especially the boys) to be gay? It’s the moms.

      Who encourages — even coerces — their kids to “transition”? It’s the moms.

      Meaww: Texas father loses court battle to prevent ex-wife from letting son, 7, transition to girl, says she made child wear dresses (2020-2-27)

      Pay close attention to any such story, and you will see. It’s almost always the mom.

      Proverbs 14:1
      The wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands the foolish one tears hers down.

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      • locustsplease says:

        My mother dragged my family to a homosexual inclusive nondenominational church as a kid, and yes, she tried to get me to join the sodomites. Didn’t work. These women who dress their daughters like whores far out number and out vote believers in Christ. It’s always the mother women are leading the degenerate charge in Slumerica.

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    • locustsplease says:

      Even the hottest girls in my graduating class of 1,000 did not dress like whores in 2002. They wore jeans and t-shirts. No one was allowed to wear any tank tops, or show cleavage or the mid-rift in school. Every month a girl or two would try and she wouldn’t make it through 2 classes before getting sent home. They would not ask them to change because they would make this big show to prevent them from doing it again. They would kick them out so the parent had to leave work and ruin their day. They identified the parent as the one who was buying this seductive clothing.

      My home town has a nice parade with food and beer one weekend a year, and I almost can’t take my kid because its a d@mn brothel! Girls barely older than her in literal bra tops, and fish net everywhere. Honestly, when I go to our local college to watch a football game and hit the bar-clubs, the hot 20-somethings are way more toned down than the 14 year old girls at my home town! It’s disgusting. They have 1,000 cock stares in middle school! Who the hell are the fathers!

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      • Oscar says:

        “Who the hell are the fathers!”

        The fathers are most likely not raising their children, just like in the cases I posted above.

        I recently traveled to the town where I went to college for a job interview. Apparently, the current trend for college girls is to wear a sports bra as a shirt! In February! Pretty soon they’re going to be wearing paint!

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  8. elspeth says:

    I thought about it a bit and I actually know parents who were far more strict than we were — in some regards — and certainly more overtly religious, whose girls were a terror.

    It makes me think that family culture matters a lot. In our house it was clear that: “We don’t do this, that, or the other.”, “What you do reflects on your family’s name. “, “We don’t believe that being a teen or young adult necessarily means you set out on an immoral sin spree.”, etc.

    Our girls not only took that to heart, but care deeply how their father sees them.

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    • cameron232 says:

      Could be inborn personality – your girls aren’t naturally rebellious. Or it could be SAM’s combination of lovingness and masculine dominance is perfect for raising girls. Mama deserves credit too, but you won’t give it to yourself.

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    • redpillboomer says:

      “Our girls not only took that to heart, but care deeply how their father sees them.”

      That’s huge, and rare these days.

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