Infiltration and Disruption of the Continuity of Values

Institutions are easy to topple if you suck out the values.

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Author’s Note: The idea for this post came out of a conversation I had with NovaSeeker. Links to the original comments are given.
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Institutions are Built on Values

The mission and point of an institution is to propagate and propel a set of values into the future.

The MAIN (if not the ENTIRE) task of an institution is to STAY THE SAME.

Every institution, from marriage, to the church, to the Boy Scouts, must keep this task in clear eyed focus in front of it at all times.

I’ve been arguing a part of this point for some time now, without much luck getting people to listen.

Liz brought up the point that many social programs and institutions that were designed to help people get more out of life (such as the boy scouts which was intended to help young men who lacked a paternal role model of any kind) have been struck down by “woke scolds” and snowflakes who are riding on the crest of progressivism.

Yes.

The deepest, most maleficent factors on the left know that institutions are built on values. If they take out the values, then they can take out the whole institution.

How are Institutions Subverted?

Novaseeker spelled out the details of just how an institution becomes converged.

  1. Change the institution from the inside out (feminism has been trying to do this with marriage, gay marriage is another tool to do this).
  2. “Hollow out” the institution so that it collapses under either its own weight (which it can no longer support, as the substance of it has been removed in the hollowing-out process) or under its contradictions, which are highlighted by the same people who control the institution.

“You do both at the same time, all of it at the same time, because under no circumstances do you want the current institution, as currently constituted, to survive. So, in working both to undermine it and to change it from within, you ensure that the current institution is either changed to what you want it to be, or it is destroyed — and either way, the current version is gone, which is really what you want in the end.”

The way this is done is by removing the values that were once attached to the institution. That’s what “hollow out” means.

“[It’s a] Pretty effective approach if you are bent on fundamental social change.”

The problem is, once they take over an institution, they are stuck with the conundrum of knowing why the institution exists, while being ambivalent about the values that the institution was meant to uphold in the first place.

“We own and run this thing. Its purpose is to keep the status quo. But we hate the status quo. What do we do now?”

 “Once faced with the nightmare scenario of a possible institutional collapse, the opposition to social change can generally be co-opted into making changes to the institution under the guise of preventing its destruction, and then those institutional changes also serve to further undermine the institution.”

Everything I was part of (Boy Scouts, the Church of Christ, marriage) is totally unrecognizable to me, and therefore has lost purpose to exist, and is useless to me and my children.

Are there any institutions left that haven’t been subverted?

“Essentially it takes some ironclad powerful institutional force to prevent this, and that was never going to be present in the United States, because the country is founded on the principles of liberation.”

This is why those of us who are psychologically constituted toward more conservative values no longer have faith in any institutions whatsoever. We are on our own, to maybe, create new ones, or something.

Of course, this is a significant part of the liberationist strategy as well — hollow-out the institutions enough such that people like us leave them, which hollows them out more and so on until they either disappear or remain technically present but are virtually unrecognizable. But what can you do? At the end of the day, we have to do what’s best in our own lives, really.”

It’s (one of) the reasons I gravitated toward Holy Orthodoxy. No doctrinal change since 787AD. I LOVE that!

“One of the nice things about the structural dysfunctionality of Orthodoxy is that it actually offers a profound advantage in this era, where change is rampant and rapid. An institutional inability to change, in a structural sense, has its advantages in a time like this one.”

One more reason to be thankful for my church.

Related

Aaron M. Renn discusses this social phenomenon further.

H/T: DPMonahan

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48 Responses to Infiltration and Disruption of the Continuity of Values

  1. Rock Kitaro says:

    This is why I use words like “corrupt” to describe certain individuals, movements, and lifestyles. When you have a standard (much like an individual’s institution, or personal constitution)…such individuals run the risk of corrupting you by mere association, like a corrupted piece of flesh or wound. It needs to be cut-off before it does so much damage that it’s irreparable.

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    • Joe2 says:

      “…such individuals run the risk of corrupting you by mere association, like a corrupted piece of flesh or wound.”

      There is an old saying that one rotten apple can spoil the barrel. So they can corrupt on an individual basis as well as on a corporate basis such as in an institution. It is very important to avoid associating with such individuals.

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  2. professorGBFMtm2021 says:

    Disruption you mean the last 25 years of the MGTOW?The purpose of MGTOW has stayed the same even after loser p@ssy-begger roissy infiltrated the MGTOWSPHERE!Loser weakling GAME failed!!And the MGTOW ”male survival values” of ”going nuclear&not giving or taking a s#it” has prevailed!!
    As the whole LOSER weakling elite infrastructure collapases like everybodys BAD BEHAVIOR/FORNICATION-hero roissy/heartist loved with his ”enjoy the collapse” catchphrase!
    Everybody left will COC-beg the MGTOW to fight woke culture and its main enforcers the SJWS!Why won’t people ask the p@ssy-begger gamers?
    Because like the loser fraud weakling neo-con elites they are total losers as best shown with the purplepillers athol kay,susan walsh,ross strauss,david deangelo&short max tucker!
    Going to save the MMP,huh?Is that why weakling elites&FEMINAZIS are in full panic mode?
    MGTOW has been the main instituition that has stayed the same for the last 25 years!
    Only we in the true MGTOW elite class can see this!?Nobody else!?
    I &many others never beleived in the failure of polite loser weakling policies of p@ssy-begging like some so-called leaders of the manosphere seem to this day to beleive in!
    All p@ssy-begging/GAME is is a band-aid that fails in the end-game of relationships!
    Ask all the fools who went along with p@ssy-begging,as they got their asswhupped by feral wives&other delicate women!!
    The true&noble MGTOW status-quo works because we are outsiders that know we can’t count on fraud noble Idealistic weaklings to save even themselves from ruin!Look at the weakling beta kennedys for example!

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  3. lastmod says:

    Was a Scoutmaster for ten years……2006-2016. When Scouting depended on “corporate donations” and pesnsion plans, and massive benefits, a huge HR dept, and paying executives and regional directors a salary equivelent to a CEO of a fortune 500 company is when the end began (probably sometime in the 1970’s / 1980’s). WHen I was there, they depended on corproate donations from DIsney, and the like…….also the people INSIDE Scouting demanded it go woke. The rank and file Scoutmaster was powerless to do anything…..except leave. When girls were finally allowed to be “admitted” I was done.

    Most Orthodox priests I have met are not conservative, most are quite socially liberal (here in California in the Greek Orthodox tradition…my cousin married into this tradition)

    To me….its just ritual, tradition and most have no idea why they are doing said tradition or understand it. I also don’t and have not seen in the bible anywhere of praying to painted icons, and a billion saints and feasts, and other hangers on. My few visits to an Orthodox church I didn’t really find it welcoming, and it kind-of gave off the impression you had to be “born” Greek, or eastern Slavic to be accepted. Maybe it isn’t like this…..but that is the impression I get. My cousins wedding took HOURS….dancing around crowns, this stance, that stance. This recital, this prayer…..who comes and does what action first. At the Russian ORrhodox church I went to on Orthodox Easter…..walking around the church three times, knocking on the door (no reply…because Jesus isn’t there) and then some sort of prayer to Mary, some saint…….just way over my head.

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    • Joe2 says:

      Years ago a group of female “cultural exchange” students from Russia came into the area and worked at local restaurants and bars to learn about American culture before returning to Russia later in the year. They spoke acceptable English so communication wasn’t a problem.

      One student in particular mentioned that she attends a Russian Orthodox church and was staying with a couple from the church. She left the impression that the church was more of a social club for older couples who were trying to preserve their cultural traditions. In other words, if you are not one of them, you are not welcome.

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  4. dpmonahan says:

    I highly recommend Aaron Renn’s Maculinist (https://themasculinist.com/) newsletters 24 and 35 which are on just this topic. He argues the need to move away from institutions because
    1) America is over institutionalized,
    2) any surplus value generated by the institution will be used for ends contrary to what you value,
    3) American institutions are de-facto instruments of state control,
    4) Jesus does not command us to create institutions but to love our neighbor. The purpose of a Christian institution should be to build up the network of relationships (i.e. the Church), but it becomes vice versa.
    My take: we build up institutions to the point that they are insulated from failure, so they just end up existing for their own interest, not the the interests of people they are supposed to serve. They become havens for grifters and parasites.
    The natural institution is the family structured around paternal authority. Ancient institutions, the village, the tribe, the feudal aristocracy, were networks of families with hereditary loyalties. We’ve replaced that with the factory, the firm, the self-perpetuating bureaucracy. Notice how family wealth and traditions don’t last more than a couple of generations (in fact, those are considered to be oppressive things) while the bureaucratic institutions last forever.
    The church is, in essence, the network of believers structured around a paternal (“hereditary” by apostolic succession) authority of Bishops, but it has obscured that behind layers of institutions serving their own ends (eg, in the West: Vatican bureaucracy, Catholic universities, etc).

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  5. professorGBFMtm2021 says:

    ALL THINGS GBFM&the GLOBAL MGTOW!!!Arron renn?Hes the great hope against the one true MGTOW!?He thinks tfm repersents the TRUE MGTOW ELITE?Hes never run into the ole’GBFM who put fraud losers like roissy,athol kay,susan walsh,wimp strauss,short max tucker&a certain GENDERIST in their WEAKLING FEMINAZISM place!Aaron talks against brad wilcucks?Thats great!But not as great as the GREATBOOKSFORMEN!!!The TRUE MGTOW PATRIARCH(The GREAT ROMANTIC fellow gentleman) of the MGTOWSPHERE&its successors roissysphere/manosphere!!I’m the main man who was banned for telling the ”hard” non-p@ssy-begging PATRIARCHICAL truth of life&the ”EXALTED WORDS OF MOSES&JESUS”!!!What has POLITE greater BETA aaron renn done?Other than the renn&stimpy cartoon with brad wilcucks as stimpy!?Thats why I’m the MGTOW PATRIARCH!!People think its ”hard” for me to NON-CHALANTELY be the TRUE redpill like this?I’am THE Natural INNATE alpha PATRIARCH since day one!!I was’nt taught it!!Especialy by p@ssy -begging WEAKLINGS!! P.S.I did’nt have to learn GAME!I’am the GAME!!!Everybody knows that!!!
    Also nobody wants to discuss the merit&VALUE of WEAKLING p@ssy-begging with the kindest of TRUE MGTOW ELITES ever!!?
    PostP.S.This is one of those few comments posts?Like the ”master of meta-reality”& ”scholary test” ones?
    People should test&tempt GBFM thats a GREAT ”life-script”!!!
    Where did that get various loser BETAS&CUCKS in the past!?

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  6. lastmod says:

    Well Aaron Renn worked for large companies, wrote books, and published papers and somehow believes he is some sort of urban planner…… He was hired by large hierarchies to give his advice about city governments and agencies, and probably for a handsome price. I don’t know much about him, but I have no idea why his ideas on smart cities and urban planning are even considered.

    When Fresno embarked on its “revitalization” of its downtown, it had a mid-century masterpiece of urban art — The Fulton Mall — a six block pedestrian mall with excellent modern art, designed by a world renown landscape planner, Garrett Eckbo, and developer Victor Gruen. It opened in 1964.

    It fell on hard times, like most downtowns did in the 1970’s. With so few original pedestrian malls left in the USA, we had the opportunity to restore it, and upgrade and rezone the area for more dense housing. We had a golden chance to restore a gem, it had a climax forest of trees downtown, amazing artwork and design…

    No, no…… It had to be removed, and ripped out. Aaron Renn was quoted frequently during the hearings to remove The Mall.

    And well, it was ripped out. Now we have a lame street with parking meters. Still a dead downtown, worse in many cases now. So, I won’t debate his faith but his hairbrained ideas wrecked one of the few things “good” about Fresno.

    I was the co-chair of “Save The Fulton Mall” because it was in my neighborhood, and it had architects, designers and many people from around the world who were concerned about the destruction of a fully intact piece of art by a world renown designer who were members. We lost by two votes. Aaron Renn in my book is partially to blame for this. He was quoted constantly.

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  7. info says:

    Good stuff. Although I am hoping that Holy Orthodoxy san the Iron Curtain can survive. Even the Most Traditional looking institutions are getting subverted, the RC for example.

    So we will see.

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  10. Scott says:

    I occasionally find myself, like Cypher, wishing I could just plug myself back into the matrix.

    Apparently, over the weekend it was “Women Veteran’s Day” or something. On the one social media account I have left, LinkedIn, all the guys around my age and older (even other combat veterans) were falling all over themselves to share articles, photos, memes, etc of the kick ass women Veterans they know, or know about, adding their own additional flavor commentary about how “I’ve worked with some of the finest female soldiers in my career and I’ll tell you, most of them can run circles around some of the pansy boys I came across in my time!”

    (This is, of course a paraphrase of most of their comments)

    And although these cringeworthy posts make my eyes roll as they glaze over, I do miss the club. I was like that — the combination of libertarian/chivalrous trad-con begging to be part of the in crowd of virtue-signalers that I have now come to despise. Makes me throw up a little in my mouth each time I see it now.

    But what has been seen, cannot be unseen and so I write nothing. I just scroll past to the articles about suicide risk assessment and forensic psychology, or try to find the needle in a haystack mental health article that ISN’T about pride or whatever social justice cause, just so I can engage.

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    • Liz says:

      Up until you said you were once like that, I was going to ask…are you sure it’s you?
      Society seems to have changed around us, not the other way around.
      Back in my youth there wasn’t the same concept of “bad ass chicks”. Teenaged girls made a smaller cohort of juvie (now I think there are more girls in juvie than boys).
      We had shows like Charlie’s Angels and Wonder woman and so forth, but it was understood that was intended to be campy, not a “how to” for women.

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      • lastmod says:

        lol “Wonder Woman” which actually wasn’t a bad TV show for its time…though every episode some bad guy always getting “bound and gagged” lol!

        I remember in the summer of 1986 seeing “Aliens” in the theaters (in West Germany) and it was a “good” movie not because it had a female lead. It was because it was just a good story.

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      • thedeti says:

        The only reason to watch Wonder Woman was Lynda Carter bouncing around in that outfit. Oh. My.

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      • thedeti says:

        Charlie’s Angels was for men, not women. It was what my dad called a “jiggle show”. Same thing with Love Boat which usually featured one of the big breasted Landers sisters (Audrey or Judy – Audrey being the better actress; Judy being the hotter woman); and Three’s Company which was, well, you know.

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      • Red Pill Apostle says:

        The actresses change. The storylines change. The reason men are drawn to the show does not. If you were a male in the 1990’s Baywatch was high drama, with enthralling plot lines, sophisticated writing and pre-wall Pamela Anderson running slow motion on the beach.

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      • Joe2 says:

        We had shows like Charlie’s Angels…

        Farrah Fawcett became popular through her role in Charlie’s Angels in 1976, the same year her “red swimsuit poster” was issued. The poster sold six million copies the first year, a huge success.

        No doubt the show was targeted to men who got the poster to hang on their bedroom walls.

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      • cameron232 says:

        Dave Chappelle on Wonder Woman:

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      • Novaseeker says:

        We had shows like Charlie’s Angels and Wonder woman and so forth, but it was understood that was intended to be campy, not a “how to” for women.

        Yes and no. I mean, yes, it wasn’t meant to be “role models” in the sense of women wanting to act specifically like the three of them. But at the same time it was a clear and unmistakeable step in the direction of female empowerment and equality by imagining women in positions of power over men — which essentially usurps the primary male role of protecting everyone from “bad guys”. Wonder Woman and Charlie’s Angels began the explosion of that premise, and the mainstreaming of the fantasy of women playing the “defender of the weak” role. Sure, in the initial stages it was peddled as power-while-glamorous for women, and as raw sex appeal for men (taking place, as they were, in the sex-drenched 1970s), but the underlying point — which was not lost at all on the people who were thinking up and producing such programming — was to begin to introduce the revised concept that women and men were interchangeable in social roles (i.e., women could be the defenders of the weak just like men), and the lie that this would not cause any havoc in sexiness or sexual attraction between the sexes. It was the beginning of the propagation of that myth, which has now mushroomed into the now almost boring stronger-than-boys-grrl stereotype in almost all films, video games and other pop culture products.

        A key element of this is that the sexiness was used to sell feminist empowerment to men. In the beginning. That is, female empowerment was peddled in that initial (and critical) stage as having the major benefit of women being more available sexually, dressing and acting more sexual, and so on — that empowered women meant sexy, and sexually available, women, which was attractive to more than a few men. It didn’t end up that way. as we can see in the subsequent culture, particularly after the AIDS-related “reset”, when the current 80/20 culture really began.

        Feminism and sex walked hand in hand beginning in the mid-20th Century, and each was used to further the agenda of the other. That is, sex was used to peddle feminism to men and women alike in different ways (men as raw sex appeal and access, women as desirability, sexual expression, and the fantasy of “zipless f*&ks”), while at the same time feminist empowerment was used to justify the libertinism of the sexual revolution (liberated sexual mores and scripts as empowerment and equality for women). Some feminists didn’t like this, because they didn’t trust that the sexual revolution would go to the benefit of women rather than men, but the “sex positive” side of feminism “won” that argument, and feminism and the sexual revolution — and therefore images of female sexiness — have walked hand in hand since the 1960s. The most feminist images in the world are not a pictures of career women in business suits or military uniforms — the most feminist images in the world are the endless images of women on instagram, in social media, OnlyFans and so on that project female empowerment as sex in real time. The latter have a much broader reach and influence, and are, in many ways, the quintessential feminist images.

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      • lastmod says:

        I was at the age when “Charlie’s Angels” was on prime time….I was too young to watch that show, and it was on later, past my six / seven year old bedtime. I watched the re-runs in the 1980’s. It was dumb.

        I also wasn’t allowed as boy in the 1970’s to watch “Maude” and “Match Game” (with its sort-of dirty jokes..and panel, all of them smoking cigarettes, and bombed off the a**es on pills and drink answering / matching what the contestant said).

        I still wonder what the blazes was happening in the 1970’s. Man….the fashions just got really, really ugly. Beyond ugly…just groady. That orange color used in waiting rooms back then that looked dirty even after it was cleaned….yeah. Maybe it was the 1960’s hitting home…..you know, mom taking yoga, head shops in suburbia. I can go the rest of my life without hearing a “Bee Gees” song ever again….I do remember that period when every radio station was a “disco” station.

        as you all were

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      • Joe2 says:

        Well cultured men have moved beyond the days of Charlie’s Angels, Wonder Women and so forth and now congregate to appreciate women’s contribution to sports and music.

        Fellow scholars ponder the great unanswered questions of the universe while watching women’s triple jump, women’s long jump, and women’s high jump competitions on YouTube. Dear Lord..Thank you for making such talented women like this.

        And last, but not least well cultured men appreciate the finger dexterity and training of a violinist as exemplified by violinist Rebecca Thumber of the James Last orchestra as they played Orange Blossom Special in Miami, also on YouTube.

        Cultured men have many facets and not just a one track mind as have been suggested by Charlie’s Angels, et al.

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      • Liz says:

        I was at the age when “Charlie’s Angels” was on prime time….I was too young to watch that show, and it was on later, past my six / seven year old bedtime.

        Heh, I was six or seven at that time too. I was allowed to watch it. Also remember watching Love Boat and Fantasy Island after that (though I was very tired). My parents didn’t care. If it was on the television, I could watch. Once HBO arrived…wow, that was basically porn. I was about nine. Weird times.

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      • cameron232 says:

        We got cable (including HBO) in 1983. Once mom figured out what was on HBO she got rid of the premiums. Her favorite shows were Little House on the Prairie and the Waltons.

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      • Liz says:

        Mom didn’t like being a mother. She was a good grandmother though…
        i try to remember that in these trying times.

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      • Liz says:

        Recently read Laura Ingles Wilder’s book on “the first four years” (of marriage). They lost a child, the house burned down, her husband got an illness that almost killed him and left him crippled, and they lost the farm. It’s not light reading. People were tougher then.

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      • Elspeth says:

        Recently read Laura Ingles Wilder’s book on “the first four years” (of marriage). They lost a child, the house burned down, her husband got an illness that almost killed him and left him crippled, and they lost the farm. It’s not light reading. People were tougher then.

        Yes. I am currently reading <a href=”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Land_Remembered>A Land Remembered, in anticipation of an assignment this fall. To see the toughness of the women in this historical novel is pretty striking compared to the women of today. If you haven’t ever read it Cameron, you should. it is a fascinating exploration of the first generations of “Florida Crackers”. Like the Little House series, you’re left wondering at how all this comfort has ruined us all, to some degree.

        We got cable (including HBO) in 1983. Once mom figured out what was on HBO she got rid of the premiums. Her favorite shows were Little House on the Prairie and the Waltons.

        I remember visiting my parents the first weekend after I left home and got my own place which only about 15 minutes away. When I saw that they had immediately gotten cable, I was equal parts amused and kind of annoyed. They relegated us to the “big 4” all those years, and then as soon as it was just the two of them, they got cable.

        After I was a parent, of course, I got it, but at the time it seemed overkill to me. I don’t remember watching anything from the 70s except in reruns many years later. I do recall Family Matters, Family Ties, Cosby, etc. and I think maybe the A Team, 🙂 .

        Unlike most kids of the 80s, television was not a big part of my growing up years. My husband caught me up on all the TV and movies during our swift courtship and early marriage. It’s kind of weird, because I went to the store to buy cigarettes for my dad, and took the city bus to the mall on my own at 12, but media? That was tightly controlled.

        I vaguely remember Charlie’s Angels. Thing is though, what Liz said. Everyone understood that stuff was all in good fun. No one expected women to actually be as strong as Wonder Woman. I can not imagine groups of women piling into theaters and crying tears of catharsis at a Wonder Woman movie back when I was a kid.

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    • elspeth says:

      Why do female veterans need their own Veteran’s Day?

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      • Scott says:

        This is what I mean by once you are red-pilled, it is impossible to “unsee” the inconsistencies. This is what Dalrock called “marking territory”

        The reasons there is a special veterans day for them goes VERY deep indeed into the psychology of intersexual dynamics.

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      • elspeth says:

        @ Scott:

        Inconsistencies like this: “Building back more equal, in a more gender neutral, perhaps a more feminine way, how about that?…”

        What the hell? How can you build more gender neutral AND a more feminine way? And this is coming from the lips of a man who is a leader of one of the oldest, most respected empires of the free world. He almost makes Biden sound coherent, which is an accomplishment!

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      • Scott says:

        Yes. You just have to say words like “equal” and so on. Just smile and repeat the lie.

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      • Scott says:

        It reminds me of WIll Ferrels character in “Blades of Glory.”

        “No one knows what it means! It’s provocative!”

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      • Novaseeker says:

        Keep in mind that Johnson is just uttering memes. In his private life he does what he damned well pleases when it comes to women, in a way that, in the US, would have had him canceled by American feminism. During the last UK election in 2019, he was shacked up with his young mistress (whom he met through her job at Tory HQ), still married to his second wife, with very little public commentary about it.

        Suffice to say, the UK “Conservative Party” is nothing of the sort when it comes to social matters.

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      • Elspeth says:

        @ Nova:

        Suffice to say, the UK “Conservative Party” is nothing of the sort when it comes to social matters.

        Suffice it to say, the same thing applies here in the U.S.

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      • Novaseeker says:

        But we don’t have a “Conservative Party”. Yes, the GOP has been associated with conservatives for the past 50 years, but it wasn’t founded as a conservative party, unlike that one.

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      • Elspeth says:

        Yes, Nova. You’re right and I stand corrected.

        I was thinking more of the GOPs association with traditional family values, which persisted long after it was clearly not the case.

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    • lastmod says:

      Oh yeah….more of those “roundhouse-kicking women” that are everywhere today. From movies to TV, to even fiction now (I still read a ton of fiction)…..every woman character picks up the gun and takes ’em all on. Every female knows “what’s best” automatically….she doesn’t make mistakes…and if she does, its because some “man” didn’t do his part.

      Yeah, Veterans. My dad was, uncles…….most served in peacetime Eisenhower era. The ones in the UK served post-Suez crisis so they too were in peacetime. I understand ‘Veterans Day”

      All female Vets never served a front line, took the shores of Iwo Jima, or San Juan Hill. Female vets never were out in the jungle fighting the VC in a firefight in 1968 nor were they put into a POW camp and never came home. No female vets liberated the death camps in Poland, nor the work camps in Germany.

      No female vet lived through the horror of a Japanese POW camp.

      Getting a little tired of this. Soon, it will be “gay vets day” and “dylexic eskimo veterans day” and “black american veterans day”

      My first day on my new job, they have the company logo in “rainbow colors” in celebration of “gay pride” and of course the tyranny they lived under during Trump’s four years in office (a new co-worker…..who is female, but isn’t gay stated boldly “trump set back gay rights 50 years” and all the simps at work agreed because you know…she’s pretty and pretty women are “never” wrong….she is probably 30….she would know, right???)

      I spent all morning in an HR office going over paperwork, and of course an attractive Asian woman is the HR director. My admin is attractive. Most of the managers are women, support staff here are women. My male co-workers my age are married and are the accountants. The younger ones are in sales.

      A little tireds of hearing how “women have it so rough” and for most of working career now, most of my supervisors have indeed been women

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      • lastmod says:

        I showed up in a shirt and tie….everyone looked at me like I was a Mormon, but honestly I looked more like a Plymouth showroom salesman from 1961. I don’t care. I rock a tie well, and this business-casual is out of hand in my opinion.

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      • cameron232 says:

        The first example my wife and I noticed (of the kick-ass female) was the trailer for the late 90s movie “Coyote Ugly” – we didn’t see the movie – it was about some ho’s at a bar or something. I just remember we laughed at the trailer because some petite, hot girl knocks this guy out with a backfist – not a good way to knock a guy out even if Mike Tyson did it. A woman with little stick arms – she’d probably break her hand or wrist.

        My sister tries to pull off the tough girl routine (with her mouth) which is laughable. She has tiny, skinny little hands and fingers like my mom. Her ring size is like 2 or something. She claims to have intimidated a black man at a party or something – some story about backing him up against a wall or something. A ridiculous lie. A black man at the 5th percentile of size and strength could kill her with his bare hands if he wanted to and she couldn’t stop him.

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      • Liz says:

        She claims to have intimidated a black man at a party or something – some story about backing him up against a wall or something. A ridiculous lie.

        Hypothetical: A chihuahua attacks a doberman and it backs off. The chihuahua goes back to his pals and says, “HA! Look at that! I made a doberman back down!”
        Is the chihuahua a liar?
        No. He just doesn’t understand the only reason the doberman backed down was, he was trained by his owner not to attack. In the wild he would eat the chihuahua as a snack. So goes the ways of civilization…Domestic animals too do not understand they are being fed until the food tube is turned off. People are supposed to be smart enough to understand this, but most are too comfortable and don’t.

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      • Liz says:

        While I’m on the subject of things people should know but often don’t…
        When Biden stands at the podium and tells the world, “The Joint Chiefs have said the most pressing security issue right now is climate change…”
        He isn’t necessarily lying.
        No one in their right mind believes the Joint Chiefs are really sitting around saying, “Yeah, right now of all our security concerns, climate change is the biggest threat…”
        But if the (civilian) Secretary of Defense, or Biden for that matter, tells them to say that, they will say that. They could resign but that’s about it.
        Same with trans-genders. They will say whatever they are told too. Because them’s the orders.
        This is particularly important to remember when the military budget is passed with a lot of pork and weapons systems and the politicians say, “Hey we gave the military what it asked for..” True. But also not true.

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      • cameron232 says:

        Sister’s democrat btw – not racist –I’m sure it just sounded like an impressive girl power tale. No black man in the world is afraid of my sister.

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    • feeriker says:

      Good luck finding with anything non-pozzed on LinkedIn. I NEVER comment there, and can’t imagine anyone with a dissenting voice daring to do so, considering that a) you’re posting under your real name and professional credentials, and b) it goes without saying that current and potential employers scrutinize every word you write and are just itching to find someone to “cancel.”

      I’ve pretty much become content with consoling myself with the idea that anybody who posts pozzed nonsense that has nothing to do with their professional qualifications or subject matter is a loser who is incapable of discussing anything of productive importance. Somehow, I don’t think I’m far off the mark in my assumption.

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      • Red Pill Apostle says:

        Understand that LinkedIn is a sales and marketing tool and treat it as such. The product you are selling is yourself so you keep opinions that might kill the sale under wraps. You also post things that make other people feel good about themselves or that they can site at the next happy hour to make them feel smart amongst their peers so they like you. This is the ultimate purpose of LinkedIn and straying from these truths is trouble.

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  11. Jeff Barnes says:

    The best place to go if your MGTOW man is Mt Athos. No women allowed. I know I am going to be an Orthodox monk, now its just a matter of where and when. Why bother watching modern society crumble? Would you rather be lost on earth or lost in the heavens? (St. Paisios, I believe)

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