Moon Day Review – The Manosphere Reshuffles its Deck

An update on how the Manosphere has changed in 2020.

Readership: All;
Note: September 2 is the ninth full moon of 2020.

Introduction

As we have been focused on political issues, dealing with societal upheaval, and squirreling away our lives during the COVID crackdown, the Manosphere has quietly been slipping away.  This post takes note of the disturbances in the force.  The last time I reviewed such changes was in the post, Moon Day Review – Crack and the Red Pill (2019 May 13).

There were several blogs that slowed down over the past couple months, and I’ve been waiting to see whether they were taking a summer reprieve, or else were slowly fading into the archives.  I could always be wrong, but now I’m fairly certain about which way these blogs are going to fall.  Only time will tell for sure.

I have not included blogs which went down more than one year ago.

My apologies for omitting any pertinent secular Manosphere blogs.  Leave a link in the comments if you wish one to be included in the list.

Fading Blogs

(The authors no longer post with regular frequency.)

Defunct Blogs

(The authors have ceased writing new posts.)

Terminated Blogs

(The web domain has been deleted, defunded, or deplatformed.)

Also of note, Scott Klajic says he won’t be writing for the Manosphere again. That’s probably good for him and his family, but bad for us.

New Blogs

Revived Blogs

(The authors have renovated their site or image, or have resumed posting with greater frequency.)

Still Going Strong

(The authors continue to produce new posts on a regular basis.)

Addendum: These lists have been updated to include the information offered by readers below in the comments.

Discussion

As you can see, there is a much greater number of Manosphere/Red Pill blogs making an exit than are making a debut.  34 going out, and 10 coming in, compared to 38 remaining steady.  That’s a huge turnover, and all within the last several months!

For those who have been following along, the real surprise is that this phase shift has been delayed for so long.  The Manosphere chuggered to a metaphysical standstill in late 2018, and since then, uniquely new behavioral theories and cultural models have become extremely rare and of diminutive impact.  Most of the philosophical (viz. morally neutral) perspectives have morphed into behavioral lore and praxeologies which continue to be discussed and are slowly leeching into the mainstream.

But even though the decade of the Classic Manosphere has passed (ca. 2008-2018), the movement is not completely dead.  Instead of developing new theories, it is undergoing a philosophical breech concerning which applications continue to receive a focused interest.

Back in early April of this year, I put my finger on a schism that has developed between Christian Red Pill and secular Red Pill.  This difference has become more pronounced since then.  This schism might explain some of the present attrition in the Manosphere, as writers are pressured to conform to either a pro-Game player mindset, or else chase after a Christ centered relationship/marriage context.  Many writers have been unprepared to make such a change or have grown weary in keeping up with these changes.

As things are now, secular RP authors are focusing on the pleasures of the flesh and the pride of life (e.g. lay reports, how to decrease approach-to-lay ratios, and gloating in the satisfaction of “enjoying the decline”), while the few remaining authors of the Christian Manosphere are continuing to produce insights with respect to Biblical proscriptions of morality and the spiritual significance of various nuances within specific contexts (e.g. marital sanctification, successful parenting, effective fatherhood, life-purpose, purity, etc.).  There is still much more to be examined through a Biblical RP lens.  So we can expect this trend to continue for the next few years or until there is a society-wide reset.

A suggestion for the hosts of fading blogs: Readers totally understand that life changes and that you no longer feel the need to churn out new content.  It’s hard work.  However, you have some outstanding and perhaps even historically significant content that continues to be relevant.  All that is needed is for you to mildly revise those older posts which are still pertinent and repost them.  Publish or Perish!

Another suggestion for the hosts of fading, defunct, or terminated blogs: Recently, I have contacted a few noteworthy authors of the past and I have invited them to post their content (old or new) on Σ Frame.  The few who have responded have flatly stated that it was too much work to maintain an active blog, and have expressed interest in submitting their work here from time to time.  To all readers, if you have something to say, but don’t want the responsibility of producing regular content, and you like this idea, I invite you to contact me at sigmaframe@protonmail.com.

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41 Responses to Moon Day Review – The Manosphere Reshuffles its Deck

  1. AngloSaxon says:

    I lost interest in what the secular red pill (and parts of the christian red pill, Bible Pill?? whatever) has to say when the response to “what do I do when my wife is being a b*tch” is don’t try and rebuke or punish her behavior, that’s being “controlling”, instead go to the gym LOL!!!!

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    • Jack says:

      Actually, making an announcement and leaving the house for a few hours (to go to the gym or anywhere else, really) is a soft form of dread, and as such, it is a type of punishment. It helps to understand that the reason why women often become b*tchy is to make a grab for power or attention. Leaving the house takes the wind out of such a scheme and makes her rethink the efficacy of such an approach.

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      • AngloSaxon says:

        That is not what they are talking about. They believe that the husband has no power or control over the wife and so when she is behaving badly all you can do is improve yourself so she feels like following you.

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      • Jack says:

        @ AngloSaxon,
        That sounds like something IGTBAM, et al. would cling to. I certainly don’t believe that’s the way it is. I believe men have an edge on power and authority in the home, but exactly how this is implemented seems to be a lost art. There is a vacuum on this subject. That’s why I’ve written so many posts about men’s options and how to handle bad wife behavior. Please see the page “Discipline in Marriage” for more on this subject.

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      • AngloSaxon says:

        What/who is IGTBAM?

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      • Jack says:

        IGTBAM = “It’s Good To Be A Man”, a site hosted by Bnonn and Foster. They had a riotous interchange with Dalrock a little over a year ago about a similar issue. I include them in the Christian Manosphere simply because they acknowledge Red Pill tenets and they have a righteous purpose. But they compromise a bit too much for the tastes of RP purists.

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  2. Sharkly says:

    Here is another Christian red-pilled blog that seems to have cranked up recently:
    https://fullmetalpatriarchy.wordpress.com/

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  3. I’m not sure if the ‘Manosphere’ still exists, as it’s evolved into other things. Readers who started off as horny 20-somethings trying to pick up are now more interested in family, finance, philosophy, society, or other big picture issues.
    We grew up.

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    • Jack says:

      @ Nikolai Vladivostok,
      You’re right. The Manosphere of 2020 is nothing like the Manosphere of 2010. There has been a huge turnover, as I noted in this post. However, the same ideas and issues are still quite relevant to the young men coming of age at this time. I consider it to be extremely important to pass the torch to future generations, so that this knowledge may not be forgotten and the mistakes may not be repeated again.

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  4. Scavos says:

    Thanks for posting the list, Jack! Looks like I’ve got my work cut out for me. That’s a lot of blogs/sites to archive.

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    • Jack says:

      @ Scavos,
      Are you attempting to archive all those sites? By jove! That will be valuable to future generations! I do believe the Manosphere has generated some of the finest literature of our era. In 100 years, it will be classic literature and required reading in educational programs.

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      • Scavos says:

        Agreed. For the time being, my role will be as an archivist. When Heartiste was taken down, I started thinking about creating an archive. It wasn’t until Dalrock announced his “blogging retirement” that I needed to get moving.

        I have learned quite a bit from so many bloggers, but I still have so much to learn. I also know quite a few young men in the church who are frustrated and ready to say “F*ck this! I’m outta here!”, who would greatly benefit from the material here. With that being said, my first stage is preservation. Who knows when blogs such as these get deleted or demonetized.

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      • Jack says:

        @ Scavos,
        I am sincerely glad that individuals such as yourself have accepted the responsibility of passing the torch. I trust that God Himself will use your efforts to preserve the most important truths of the RP revelation.

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  5. thedeti says:

    a lot of content is moving into video content creation. It’s for a younger audience and their needs are different from those of the so-called Average Frustrated Chump of the late 20th-early 21st century.

    The audience is fundamentally different too – they have a lot less to work with, are fighting much much tougher battles, and are facing much tougher odds than I did. The world is openly hostile to them, and they are sandbagged and hardpressed on every side. But they have a weapon men of my generation didn’t – the internet. They can talk to men everywhere and find out they’re not alone, they’re not insane, and they can carve out something for themselves.

    It’s just that for a growing number of men, it’s not going to get better. It’s going to stay the same or get worse. Just how it is. A growing number of men will never marry or have families. A growing number of men will have sex lives resembling that of the average young man in his late teens or early 20s – not much sex, long dry spells. And that’s how their entire lives will be. The divorce rate will remain high for those who do finally break down and marry. As a married man, I cannot in good faith advise men to marry now. I just can’t. The risks are too great, the rewards too paltry, and if it fails the man will bear almost all of the costs. Most men will do their best being an Aaron Clarey – going their own way, eschewing marriage and fatherhood.

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    • Jack says:

      @ Deti,
      Agreed. I feel sad for the younger generation that is being unwillingly forced to inherit the trainwreck from the sexual revolution and Feminism. I like to believe that we ancient Xers might have something of value to offer to them in their struggles.

      I don’t follow very many RP video content creators, so I’m not able to make a comprehensive list of them to include in this post, but I do recognize their value, especially to the younger generation.

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      • thedeti says:

        The current crop of manosphere writers and content creators on YouTube are more militant, more politically oriented, more broad based Red Pill application to everything, more alt right/dissident right. It’s also moving toward monetization with the conferences. The best IMO are

        Richard Cooper (Entrepreneurs in Cars) (game, self improvement, lifestyle)
        Coach Greg Adams (self improvement/lifestyle/game/MGTOW)
        Coach Red Pill (Gonzalo Lira) (traditional Red Pill, game)
        Colttaine (MGTOW)
        Turd Flinging Monkey (MGTOW)
        Stefan Molyneux (Free Domain Radio) (classic redpill)
        Sandman (MGTOW)

        MGTOW is going to explode in popularity, in most forms, from traditional eschewing marriage and fatherhood, to “no women at all”, to incel. More and more men will identify as incel – it will become a status and a community if it hasn’t already.

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      • thedeti says:

        another thing is that after almost 10 years here, it’s become clear to me that with very, very few exceptions, men and women cannot discuss any of these matters together in any rational way. When presented with facts about the “average” man, most women run screaming from the blog, because they just can’t handle it. Most women do not understand or even care about men’s problems in this regard. I am not expecting women to care – it’s just that men are not going to find sympathy, empathy, or even passing interest from women in this area of their lives.

        It’s anathema for men to talk publicly about their difficulties with women or with life. Men are expected to shut up and just get it. If a man can’t just pick this up on his own, with no help, most people view him as worthless. Everyone, men and women alike, looks down on men who have had to turn to the internet for answers. Men are pretty much on their own in this regard. That’s just how it is.

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      • thedeti says:

        Sorry, i don’t mean to hijack comments.

        What I’m seeing among younger men is a lot more black pill and nihilism, though not as a philosophy, but “nihilism” as an everyday reality. I contrast this with my own experience. When I was a young man in high school and college, when things were very very tough personally and socially, I had hope. I believed things would get better. I had access to education. I had access to resources. I saw an economy that did go through typical contractions, but for the most part it was a basic free market capitalist economy that was continuing to expand. I believed I could eventually make my own life better if I kept at it and worked hard and didn’t give up and persisted. So i kept going. And things did get better. And are better.

        Things were hard, we still had the Soviet/communist threat, but we weren’t afraid. We had the AIDS scare, but it became pretty clear that unless I was gay, a hemophiliac, an IV drug user, or having sex with 100 women a year, I probably was not going to get AIDS. There were things to think about and be concerned about and avoid, but I wasn’t afraid. I was hopeful, persistent and usually optimistic, but cautious without cowering in fear.

        I don’t see this in the young men coming up. I don’t see hope. I don’t see optimism. I don’t see “things are gonna get better”. I see hopelessness, despair, depression, and fear. I see young men who don’t care about much of anything, because everyone around them is telling them it will fail no matter what they do, and it’s all destined to fall apart eventually anyway.

        I see them afraid, because their own parents are running around like Chicken Little (with their masks on, mind you). They are seeing everyone around them in abject fear. Know why they’re afraid? Because everyone around them is afraid. Everyone around them is teaching them fear.

        Just off the cuff comments, I don’t know how valid they are. Just what I am seeing.

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      • thedeti says:

        and my time reference frame for my “young man” days is 1984-1994, from my junior year in high school until i was about 26 and was out of school and working a year. I realize that a lot of men coming up reading manosphere content hadn’t been born yet or were toddlers at that time.

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      • Deti and I are within a year of each other in age, and I grew up with the same experiences he did. I also have the same opinion on marriage and have been slowly teaching my older boy (high school age) that marriage is a bad deal for men now. Luckily he has a very clear goal of what he wants to do, and has already figured out that a wife would be a hindrance. I’ll do the same for my younger boy, but right now we have to focus more on finding out what he wants to do with his life and how he can make it happen.

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    • Novaseeker says:

      Yes, agree, Deti.

      I think one of the real tells that things were moving online was when Rollo moved most of his actual content production to YT videos. Yes, he still writes blog posts, but, being someone with a professional background in marketing, he could see where his market was going, and that the younger market of men is not reached in blogging in nearly the same way it is in videos, so he gradually moved most of his efforts over to videos and casts in order to be relevant for that market, which is the larger part of the market for manosphere material. There is an older market as well, comprised of a combination of guys who have divorced, guys who have not but have had marital issues or subpar marriage problems, and a third group of guys who are in good marriages but see the dysfunction and are interested in understanding it better (often but not always due to having children who are aging into it) — Scott was one of these, so is Dalrock, so is Rollo as well.

      An early tell of the “changing of the guard”, generationally, were the run-ins between the “OMGs” (older married guys) who dominate Rollo’s comment section, and the “YSGs” (young single guys) who would challenge assumptions in Rollo’s posts and in the comboxes due to changing circumstances. The height of those was around 2015-2016. After that period, younger male participation kind of moved away from the manosphere into other spaces, and other media, and the older male participants began to run out of things to discuss other than the news and similar, and so it kind of began to peter out. But that conflict in Rollo’s comboxes, which was quite extensive and heated, was an omen of what was coming next, I think.

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  6. Scavos says:

    Solid points, Deti. As a millennial, myself, I’ve been down this road where there doesn’t seem to be any light or hope in life. A big part of that stems from having no agency, other than a proverbial punching bag for society. Many of my peers just “went with the program” because that’s all they were told. A few(myself included) thought something was off, but we couldn’t put our fingers on the issue.

    I wouldn’t say that millennials wouldn’t be interested in learning through blogs. Many just don’t know where to start looking. If I didn’t stumble across Wintery Knight’s blog(a random Google search), I’d never have discovered Sigma Frame, Dalrock, Deep Strength, and many others in the manosphere. Having said all of that, video content is more appealing to my generation and definitely Gen Z.

    Oh, and here’s a quick list of other RP video content creators that I’ve come across these last few months:

    Strong Successful Male
    Better Bachelor
    Donovan Sharpe

    These next two, I don’t think they would identify as Red Pill, but they offer good advice/insight:

    Jocko Willink
    How to Beast

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  7. feeriker says:

    I see them afraid, because their own parents are running around like Chicken Little (with their masks on, mind you). They are seeing everyone around them in abject fear. Know why they’re afraid? Because everyone around them is afraid. Everyone around them is teaching them fear.

    This is, of course, the inevitable outcome and the inevitable default mindset in a society where women have been permitted to ascend to positions of power and authority. We must never forget that FEAR is woman’s default mental state that drives their every thought, decision, and action. It is why western society no longer takes any kind of risks and is obsessed with safety and status quo. Given that something close to a majority of men for the last couple of generations were raised by women and without father figures in their lives, is it any wonder that FEAR has been imprinted upon their psyches as their default state of mind?

    The challenge for us older men is in how to reach out to these younger men to mentor them and instill in them a sense of hope that faith gives us – even as the institutions around us crumble and an air of despair is ever present. Without this leadership they may be on the path of no return.

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  8. feeriker says:

    A suggestion for the hosts of fading blogs: Readers totally understand that life changes and that you no longer feel the need to churn out new content. It’s hard work. However, you have some outstanding and perhaps even historically significant content that continues to be relevant. All that is needed is for you to mildly revise those older posts which are still pertinent and repost them. Publish or Perish!

    First, let me echo the thanks, Jack, for compiling these lists. Informative, sobering, and hopeful all at the same time.

    As for blog content and publication frequency, specifically where manosphere topics are concerned, you are correct in stating that it’s hard work, but I wonder if things haven’t reached a point recently where key ideas and theories that define the philosophy of the manosphere have not all been mostly identified and codified, with all that remains being the anecdotes of individual men or groups of men to reinforce or apply them. Speaking for myself, I do not consider myself to be any kind of theorist or source of groundbreaking insights in this area. This is reflected in the content of my own blog, which, while certainly available as a platform for new insights and topics related to the manosphere, has contained almost no such content since its launch a few months ago. If I were to state things more bluntly, it would be to say that others within the ‘sphere have said it better than I ever could, in a more timely fashion, and with more relevant source material than I could have provided. If I can’t add anything of value that would make it worth a man’s time to drop by and read it, providing content or perspective that he would not likely get elsewhere, then I would rather not waste digital ink in the effort. As evidence, my comrades in arms in these parts will note that I add more content in the form of comments on others’ blogs than I do original posts on my own.

    All of the above said, I rarely unlink to blogs that are “moribund,” as on more than one occasion a blogger who has been silent for months or even years will publish a post that makes the long hiatus and silence worth enduring (I’m looking at YOU, Brother Ballista!). So if you don’t “grind it out regularly, don’t despair. Volume isn’t everything.

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    • Jack says:

      @ Feeriker,

      Agreed. As long as a blog remains online, there is still a chance that the author might post something. I won’t delete old links until after the link has been 404 dead for several months. Usually you can see the demise slowly coming (i.e. a decreasing frequency of posts, or announcements of conflicting life events). In the past, we saw some major hitters deplatformed/defunded (e.g. Chateau Heartiste, New Modern Man), or suddenly end (e.g. Wimminz, Zippy Catholic, RIP), but this time around I didn’t find any such dramatic surprises. The only surprise here is the vast number of blogs fading into history (AKA the Scavenger OS “Scavos” archives :-)).

      And yes, there are very few uniquely new insights anymore. I do have a small number of foundational theories related to discipline in marriage and wife management. My current theories are about the nature of power structures and “Shepherd Game”. (Stay tuned for more on these.) I see my own work as having some new insights, but my insights are more of the reinterpretive “Frame” variety, and the nature of these insights are only of interest to Christians or “truth seekers”, which seems to be a quicky diminishing audience. It is my hope that by writing such things, I might revive the faith of some who are about to go under. Periodically, I do receive feedback to that effect, so it’s worthy of my time.

      To pose a fitting analogy, most of the frontier has been settled. The explorers have done their part and are now retiring. The continuance of the Manosphere will be about settling and developing the territory — building Framework, of many varieties.

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      • feeriker says:

        I do have a small number of foundational theories related to discipline in marriage and wife management. My current theories are about the nature of power structures and “Shepherd Game”. (Stay tuned for more on these.) I see my own work as having some new insights, but my insights are more of the reinterpretive “Frame” variety, and the nature of these insights are only of interest to Christians or “truth seekers”, which seems to be a quicky diminishing audience. It is my hope that by writing such things, I might revive the faith of some who are about to go under. Periodically, I do receive feedback to that effect, so it’s worthy of my time.

        I very much look forward to reading these as you publish them. This is something that even those Christian men with as close to “ideal” Christian marriages as possible have to deal with from time to time. They will certainly get no beneficial advice in this area from the usual suspects (i.e., the churchian hucksterbund).

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    • Sharkly says:

      “As evidence, my comrades in arms in these parts will note that I add more content in the form of comments on others’ blogs than I do original posts on my own.”
      Well I, for one, would like to thank you for taking the time to comment on both of my blogs. Your insights help to sharpen myself and others.

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  9. Still here. Just busy. Should be able to ramp up the posts sooner rather than later.

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  10. Matthew Cochran says:

    Haha; Not exactly the list I wanted to make. Thanks for the suggestions, though; those are very helpful.

    Lockdown complications and a massive storm are to blame for my relative absence. But after 3 1/2 weeks, my internet finally came back up today and I was able to put up a new post. Hopefully I’ll be able to get back into the habit of regular updates.

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  11. lastmod says:

    It’s the same thing with MGTOW…..”MGTOW for life” they chant. And then….you know……they met one “who wasn’t like the others” and suddenly are the guy who says “NAWALT”

    I suppose I am happy for them.

    My take on the decline of the man-o-sphere blog wise…..christian or not is this:

    All that needs to be said, has really been said. A blog by Martian Bachelor from 1998 (this was MGTOW way, way before anyone was saying anything about it) compared to one by written last week are the same thing. There has been nothing revolutionary said in fifteen years.

    Poople just change. Sure, some meet someone to settle down with. Hell, even some feminists later on say “Yeah, well…..once I dropped being angry all the time, I actually met a decent man”

    Some just now read a post, or few and apply it to their own lives. Many find the MGTOW community like the Christian sphere a bit too much of “Im right, you’re stupid” answers on everything. It gets tiring.

    Throw Game, red pill, blue pill, black pill, Alpha, Beta, Sigma, numbers scale…”I’m an eight, but this nine I banged, this four….but she had a pretty face…..I f*cked them all, but Jesus loves me more than anything”…….whose church is better. Who “knows” god better than you and fundamental questions cannot be answered well in this medium. It was (asdf still is a community) because that is the kind of world people DO live in today. I have openly joked in MGTOW forums in 2018 that “Any day now, men are going to post dick pics to see and prove who is the real man in the room”

    That DID happen on one Dischord. Manhood, how MGTOW and how hung you are determines your chiefdom status now. Men are just as bad as women in thses matters.

    Men need community and many who wanted it, didn’t get it. They take from the VAST resources from now……til the late 1990’s to see and get what they need, and find their own circles to chat about in, or help each other.

    In 1997, I read a newsweek article about “cocooning” people who had the entertainment system, and who only went out to work but pretty much stayed home. You could order clothing by mail back then…..and some retailers like GAP were shipping of their early webpages. Many grocery stores were delivering back then by phone-in……some online………….Amazon and Ebay were around then………….and the magazine spoke of the danger of this. Churches said that men “need community” (and when some tried, they were quickly told by the REAL men…not the women……who runs things, and how many women chased them before they were married kind of thing) and this community had nothing to do with Jesus. It was bowing to Icons, feasts, candles, Saints, or just a “man up” bible study that helped no one, except the “leader” running it.

    This community of sorts that WAS the ‘sphere or MGTOW, or Game, or PUA, or Rollo……really deserves to die. In MGTOW, I was the guy who didn’t date, who was MGTOW before there was a term for it and I was made to believe that I was “not doing MGTOW correctly”

    Same in the sphere……..Game wants to know how many, how other…and ALL of them of course are you know…okay looking eight or higher……….and in the Christian side….too confusing over which translation, over the meaing of words exactly in what context, what Jesus did and didn’t do, and how everything was great as a man until “courtly love” took over the church and faith….except the eastern church of course (rolls eyes….over 600 female icons in that faith……better memorize all of them, your quiz is in the morning) and made all of us cucks out of the womb…….well, except for the “deemed leaders” of the sphere.

    Men who wanted to improve were told a pile of lies from a full bag, and the lie changed every week….cloaked in a useless scripture.

    May it die and may men actually fellowship someday over more than looks scales, greek terms, pills and complex charts and psychological terms.

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  12. SFC Ton says:

    MGTOW will be the last man standing of the man o sphere

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  13. JPF says:

    I still miss Dalrock’s blog, now close to a year after it was closed. Part of that is certainly due to the interest and quality of most of his posts.

    But there was also a fairly large group of active commenters; you could ask questions and get suggestions/feedback/ideas, almost none of which came (or needed to come) from the blog host. Some commenters annoyed me; but that happens with any large community. And for several commenters I could see growth over time, including in myself.
    Many commenters exhibited real pain, or a real desire to help; we saw “real” human emotions, desires, life events. This gave, at least to me, a stronger sense of community than any small group or church I have physically attended, despite my personal efforts to connect and to attend all services and events suitable to my age/status.
    Maybe I should not look to blogs to get community. But with zero patriarchal/Biblical churches around me, where am I supposed to go for community based on God’s principles? I do not expect perfection in a church; I do expect men to be allowed and encouraged to take the role and obligations assigned to their sex by God, and the same for women. Finding such in a church, where bills and priests need to be paid is difficult. Finding such on a low-cost internet site seems much easier. Why is this? Jack, feel free to rip off this last paragraph for a blog post 🙂

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    • Jack says:

      @ JPF,
      Submission of topic accepted. I’ll write a post about online Christian fellowship and include your comment as the focus.

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  14. ramman3000 says:

    I’ve never posted regularly on my blog and that is not expected to change for a decade. By then blogs will all be dead, but I’ll still be posting. I post once in a while according to the purpose of my blog, which is to make longer arguments that don’t fit in a combox. For targeted manosphere stuff, I prefer commenting and guest posting.

    Lately I’ve been focusing more on one-to-one or one-to-few conversations rather than general purpose posting. This suits me I think. It’s not like my blog has a meaningful audience anyway.

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  15. Scavos says:

    Jack, I know this site is considered defunct, but it looks like one to add, for the curious.

    https://empathological.wordpress.com/

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  18. redpillboomer says:

    “…and a third group of guys who are in good marriages but see the dysfunction and are interested in understanding it better (often but not always due to having children who are aging into it)”

    This is my group!

    “…The challenge for us older men is in how to reach out to these younger men to mentor them and instill in them a sense of hope that faith gives us – even as the institutions around us crumble and an air of despair is ever present. Without this leadership they may be on the path of no return.”

    This I believe is our calling. I’ve had the opportunity to work with a couple of younger men a little bit, since I wasn’t Red Pilled until just three short years ago; and CRP’d in the last year to 18 months. We can make ourselves available to them as they look around this shit show of a society they’re inheriting with despair and hopelessness they find themselves drowning in. One thing we can do for them is to sift through all this RP/CRP stuff and get increasingly articulate with the truth, small t. The truth, capital T is in the scriptures, albeit we need to sift through the various scriptures, beginning with what happened with Adam & Eve and the fall of man to get a composite picture, i.e. what the whole counsel of scripture says, not just a verse or two here and there. I consider myself pretty damn smart, but it is taking me hours upon hours to not only listen and learn, but to also think back on my own experiences, process them newly, and re-contextualize them through a Red Pill lense. When I do this my life experience not only makes more sense to me, I can then turn around and add it to all the learning I’m doing from the men of the ‘sphere. We need to do it guys, for our young men if nothing else.

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