Corporal punishment purges the community from sin and produces righteousness.
In a previous post, Is there any honor or benefit to slut shaming an adulterous wife? (2018-11-24), I reached the conclusion that s1ut shaming, done as a form of behavioral correction, is only effective when it is condoned and reinforced by the wider community.
Not surprisingly, this community cooperation is exactly what we see in foreign cultures that still condemn sexual promiscuity. But that’s not all! Corporal punishment is duly employed to drive the lesson home, deep into the conscience of the offender.
Case Study: African workers in Saudi Arabia
As a case study, we’ll focus on an event reported at Fotonz Grid Entertainment: Ghanaian lady given 100 strokes of the cane after being caught sleeping with a Sudanese man in Saudi Arabia (2020 July 31).
The first video shows the moment the woman is caught naked and in bed with the man. We can assume with fair certainty that they are not properly married. In this scene, both the woman and her paramour are verbally chastised, b!tch-smacked around, and struck with various items, such as a leather belt.
Ouch! … and worse, the shame of it all! Their guilt is palpable!
In the second video, we see the woman being spanked with a small cane while surrounded by those we can only assume to be the elders of the community.
Here, we can actually see how caning encourages her repentance. At the 1:00 minute mark, she starts to break down emotionally, indicating that she is beginning to experience a spiritually healthy, visceral sense of guilt and shame. At the 2:00 minute mark, her fleshly nature shows, causing her to throw a tantrum like a child. She can’t inhibit her self-defense responses, resulting in her hands being painfully struck by the cane. It is this same self-preserving self-interest of the fleshly nature that needs to be exposed in order for her to become more self-aware and adopt a sense of responsibility for herself.
For those who believe caning, (or corporal punishment in general) is extreme, remember that the Old Testament (Leviticus 20:10) called for both the adulterous woman and her male partner to be stoned to death. By comparison, caning is quite merciful.
I need to point out that this is not at all like marital discipline which I have written extensively about before. Marital discipline is about a husband moulding and training his wife in love, to be holy and joyful. The purpose of marital discipline is mainly for sanctification. Caning (or stoning, etc.) an adulteress is about exposing and removing sin from both the perpetrator and the community before it grows and destroys the community. It would be ideal if the punishment (1) caused the adulteress to feel guilty (i.e. take responsibility for her wrongdoing), and (2) led to her repentance. If she truly repents, then she will lose her desire for illicit sex and become marriage minded. In effect, the punishment produces righteousness, which is exactly what the Bible says.
“Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.” ~ Hebrews 12:11 (NKJV)
I might guess that the main reason why we have such an abundance of promiscuous women in Western nations today is because parents have neglected to employ corporal punishment during their upbringing. Without that tough loving discipline, righteousness is simply not attainable.
“Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.” ~ Proverbs 22:6 (ESV)
Of course, even if parents go to the effort to lovingly administer corporal punishment to their children, the results remain tenuous as long as the practice of corporal punishment is shunned by the larger community. The operant conditioning is only effective when the subject has no other alternative but to submit to the discipline.
- Σ Frame: 13 Disciplines in Dealing with Delectable Daughters (2018 January 29)
- Σ Frame: Teaching our daughters well is the early foundation of successful wife moulding (2020 February 14)
I think I recall seeing a video of a person being caned for a similar crime in Singapore. They had the person tied to a post with their hands high above them, to restrain them. That seems more organized and efficient than depending on the person being beaten to properly cooperate. having the woman grab the switch and keep turning around, kind of makes a strange spectacle or circus event out of the corporal punishment.
In Saudi Arabia, I believe the Sharia punishment for Adultery is death by stoning for any married participant and 100 lashes for any unmarried participant.
I reached the conclusion that s1ut shaming, done as a form of behavioral correction, is only effective when it is condoned and reinforced by the wider community.
I would say it is a matter of degree. That it will be more effective to the degree that the community is performing the correction correctly. If half of the community looks at the correction as being abusive and the punished person as being a victim, then the punishment is going to be far less effective. That is why it is so important for parents to show a united front regarding their discipline of their kids. Otherwise the kids may endure punishment while learning nothing from it due to the confusion presented regarding the punishment.
With regard to getting my wife’s church to exercise church discipline regarding her rebellion culminating in her frivolous divorce, they simply are opposed to any punishment and in fact they encourage her rebellion. Her church acts directly on behalf of Satan to encourage her ungodly rebellion, and to wrongly claim that any attempt to shame or correct her, is abusive.
An important point to remember is that Christ stated that He came to fulfill His Father’s(Absolute Moral) Law, not to abolish it.(Matthew 5:17)(Christ himself, and His disciples, violated the Jewish Sabbath traditions and Jewish ceremonial cleanliness laws by eating with unwashed hands, etc.) In Luke 19:8-9 Zacchaeus vows to restore, according to the law, fourfold anything he has wrongfully taken, And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house.
The story of Jesus and the woman taken in adultery is an out of character apocryphal addition to the Bible not written by any apostle, but made up by the Great Whore, the state church of Rome, and added to the Bible in the AD 400’s. See here:
Thankfully it is the only apocryphal text addition still remaining in most of our modern English Bibles. Due to appropriate scholarship, the other few apocryphal passages added, have appropriately been removed. However, our whore worshipping churches don’t want to give up their beloved tall-tale about Jesus contradicting His Father’s absolute moral law, and letting a whore off without any lawful punishment, with no recorded repentance on her part, even though they clearly know it does not belong in the original text written by John. Don’t believe Satan’s text that he has added to your Bible. For over 300 years that lie was not a part of the original text of John’s Gospel. And it appeared first in Latin manuscripts, not Greek ones.
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I won’t debate if the story was added after the fact, it still shows Jesus following the law.
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Notta one of you men “discipline” your wife in this manner. Notta one of you.
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Fortunately, my wife has the moral character to not be committing adultery. Therefore this type of discipline is not required/appropriate.
As a general comment however, I agree with / submit to the commands in the Bible.
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Okay… let me rephrase or re”frame” this JPF.
Is this post an echo chamber them of “well, if your wife WAS doing this, a caning would be appropriate / a stoning is in line with Mosaic Law / throw her in the stocks on the New England towne green to show the whole town her sin”?
So, the men who come here, read here, comment here, and have a discussion here, are they all married women who would never do such a thing? So is it an echo chamber of “thank God I vetted properly, and I am not like the blue pilled chumps out there”?
What if we were as enlightened as some countries in Africa, and parts of the middle east? Would there no longer be “problems” in the USA with this? Even with these “punishments” and “disciplines” it is still happening in those countries, so that makes me question aspects of this practice to begin with. Also, it assumes that third world cultures where slavery is still clandestinely practiced, and having sex with a baby will “cure AIDS”, are cultures that know better how to deal with promiscuous wives.
But in this matter… beating the snot out of your wife… is well, okay. Why? Is it because the Bible says so?
Weak. The Bible also justifies slavery, but we know that is wrong.
When I lived in India, the practice of Sutte in some sects of Hinduism is still practiced or attempted even though it has been illegal since Colonial rule in India. The Caste system is lllegal, but is still practiced and followed frequently and openly in many parts… including the “urbane” and modern areas of India. Whereas adultery is illegal and grounds for divorce.
This post seems to relish in the fact that other BACKWARDS countries do this, and somehow since we don’t… we’re not culturally relevant or as enlightened.
Lastly, the men that married these adulteresses obviously are blue-pilled, cucked, weak men and should have vetted properly, and used all the tools out there (sarcasm).
Agree with most of what you said, but not this:
No, it doesn’t. Biblical slavery and American slavery are objectively different institutions, only similar at a cursory level. Moreover, the Bible describes slavery in terms of bondage (e.g. sin). Or should we say that Americans justify slavery because they have contract law, wage slavery, usury, welfare, and socioeconomic gaps?
In the Bible, Hosea had to marry a prostitute and purchase her back after she was unfaithful. His love for her mirrored God’s love for his people. It demonstrated God’s notion of redemption, mercy, and grace. Notably, he didn’t beat her for adultery.
Remember when Dalrock suggested that we should brand repentant promiscuous women with a (metaphorical) scarlet letter on their wedding day. The comment box that day was full of praise for such a brilliant idea. Hurry! Be the first to toss that stone!
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Hurry! Be the first to toss that stone!
Right there is the problem. Everybody is using an apocryphal addition to the Bible, added by the Great Whore of Rome, to prevent men from exercising any justice system. If you take that “whoever is without sin, cast the first stone” nonsense to its logical conclusion men could never uphold and enforce God’s laws, or any moral law. The lone remaining apocryphal passage added in AD 400’s Rome, promotes lawlessness, because it is from the lawless one, those words were not written by the apostle John, or any other apostle. Something quite dubious and out of character was added to the text 400 years later, not being inspired, but conspired together by the whoring state church in Rome. For you to use that only remaining addition still in many current English Bibles, as your conclusion, makes me wonder if the rest of the Bible doesn’t support your forbidding punishment and public exposure of sin, in favor of permissiveness and ultimately license. Feel free to cast some stones back and prove to me how some unknown AD 400’s Roman scribe should get to add his own stuff to the Gospel of John in Latin, and how we should base our theology on that known latter day apocryphal addition instead of on the authentic earlier Greek texts none of which contained that strange tale.
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