Countersink

Running it into the ground to set a new foundation.

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Counter

adverb

  1. In the wrong way; contrary to the right course; in the reverse or opposite direction.
  2. Contrary; in opposition (usually preceded by runor go):to run counter to the rules.

adjective

  1. Opposite; opposed; contrary.

noun

  1. Something that is opposite or contrary to something else.
  2. A blow delivered in receiving or parrying another blow, as in boxing.
  3. A statement or action made to refute, oppose, or nullify another statement or action.

Sink

verb (used without object), sank or, often, sunk; sunk or sunk·en; sink·ing.

  1. To displace part of the volume of a supporting substance or object and become totally or partially submerged or enveloped; fall or descend into or below the surface or to the bottom (often followed by in or into).
  2. To fall, drop, or descend gradually to a lower level.

Yes, I’m inventing a new word for a new approach.

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Sharkly’s Divorce and the lackluster response from his church

Most readers are already familiar with fellow blogger Sharkly over at Laughing at Feminism.  You probably also know that he’s been tied up in messy divorce proceedings with a very rebellious and disagreeable wife for about three years.

For a period of time, which I’ll guess might have lasted a couple years, he carried an entirely reasonable expectation of his church to enforce a hedge of discipline around his marriage.  But instead of a strong response of solidarity, he only received a flurry of fake grins and guffaws, which served to smooth over their unresponsive laziness.  When Sharkly demanded certain leaders of said church to be obedient to the scriptures by enforcing church discipline, one guy lost his temper, and the other leaders started to avoid him.

Sharkly found that not only did he have to fight against his wayward wife’s selfishness, but he also had to fight against the listless spiritual recalcitrance of his church.

Instead of languishing in the pain of this reprise, about three weeks ago, Sharkly resorted to a radical Plan B.  He opened a new blog, Whitewater Community Church, with the express purpose of exposing the scriptural inconsistencies of this church, and shaming certain members of his church for failing to provide a community of believers who would do the hard work of supporting the institution of marriage in this age of apostasy.

Sharkly announced the news of this bold move in his post, Help me put my boys’ home back together (2020-4-30).

If you’re interested in reading about it, click on the last two links above.  Sharkly has received the support of a few Manosphere bloggers in separate posts listed here.

Snippets of Advice for Sharkly

In addition to the above posts, Sharkly has received quite a lot of feedback from commenters.  Under Sharkly’s post, there appears a plethora of wisdom from many different voices and perspectives.  I’ve collected a few of the star mouthpieces and compiled them here.

Nikolai admonished Sharkly to look within to find the problem.

“With all respect and kindness, you have a problem deep down that you need to address.  Nothing else can make a rich, handsome man fly across the country to meet and marry a low value woman, let alone put up with all the nonsense that followed.

Lawyer up, get it over with, and turn your attention inwards to figure out what the hell went wrong.

The church is the least of your problems.”

I left my own ten cents.

“Sharkly, I’ve read the first two posts at your new site.  I’m amazed at the similarities between your marriage and my first marriage.  Sad to say, I don’t believe there is any hope of “converting” your wife and resurrecting your marriage.  Although your expectations and demands may indeed be Biblical, it will only drive her further into rebellion.  She doesn’t need discipline as much as she needs the opportunity to experience true sorrow and repentance over the error of her ways.  If she left you (instead of the other way around), and she wants a divorce, I would consider that to be an ugly blessing.  I urge you to think about how you can exit this catastrophe with a minimum amount of damage to you and your boys, and give her the freedom to resolve her issues on her own terms.
But more important than my opinion, you must decide for yourself what God wants you to do.
All the best~!”

Deti offered an excellent piece of advice.

“Your marriage cannot be salvaged.  Your marriage is over.  You cannot make your estranged wife come back to you.  You cannot make her be your wife.  She doesn’t want to be your wife.  I don’t think she’s physically, mentally, emotionally or spiritually capable of being your wife, or any man’s wife.”

“For your sake, for theirs, you need to LET HER GO.  Get a lawyer, figure out what your rights and duties are, do what the lawyer advises, offer her a deal with a reasonable and fair property division and settlement, and get the divorce over with.  There is a time and purpose for everything under heaven, including a time to give up and to throw away (Ecclesiastes 3:6).  It’s time to give her up, give this marriage up, end the marriage, and let her go.

Know that the reason the marriage cannot be saved is not because of you, but is because of her.  You’ve done all you could possibly do to save it.  You can leave with a clear conscience knowing that.  But what you’re doing now is not saving your marriage.  What you’re doing now is obsessing you, consuming you, and will ultimately destroy you.  And I am concerned about what all of this is doing to you.

“But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace.” ~ 1st Corinthians 7:15 (NKJV)

“You must treat her as an unbeliever.  She is acting as an unbeliever.  She did not keep her marriage vows.  She had emotional affairs.  Sharkly, it’s very very likely she had physical affairs too.  There’s a whole, whole lot of smoke there: Talking to past lovers.  Friending them on social media.  Having explicit conversations.  Her receiving dick pics (and her probably sending them explicit photos of herself).  These things suggest a woman who simply does not want to be, and cannot be, married to you.

I urge you to let this go.  Let her go.  It’s over.  It cannot be fixed, repaired, or salvaged.  Do it for your sake, and for the sake of your sons.  Let your sons see a man who loved God and tried.  Let your sons see a man who obeyed God and who gave it his best shot.  But also, let them see a man who understood and faced reality.  Let them see a man who knew when it was time to cut his losses.  Let them see a man who was able to let go, and then was able to bounce back and rebuild his life.

Because that, Sharkly, is what your boys need now.  They need an end to the strife.  They need to see a man, you, their father, able to act wisely, prudently, and decisively in his own best interests.  Because, Sharkly, the time will come when your boys will have to do that for themselves, and they will be able to look to you as the example.

And then, when you have let her go, you need to do what Nikolai said up there and look inward.

There is no way a wealthy, handsome man like yourself should have been flying across the country to meet women on online dating sites, even Christian sites.  A man like you should have been able to find and attract women in your own locale or close to it.  A man like you would have been, or should have been, EXTREMELY attractive to women all around you.  Either you didn’t see it or you were doing something to repel women or women were attracted to you and you failed to act.

Something in you wasn’t working correctly when you met, dated, courted, and married your wife.  You didn’t choose wisely.  You were unable to see that she wasn’t right for you.  Or you did see it and you ignored it.  You either didn’t see the red flags because you didn’t know enough to identify them, or you saw them and ignored them.

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And it’s probably not your fault.  I had much the same upbringing as you did, though I was much more limited in my resources and ability to find suitable women.  Look, man: Everyone lied to you growing up.  There’s no getting around that.  Your parents, your teachers, civic leaders, the men you knew, the adults around you – they all lied to you.  Girls lied to you.  Everyone lied to you.  You didn’t pick it up like most others did.  You got used and taken advantage of.

But now you know.  Now you understand it.  Now you understand how women work.  Now you can see the red flags.  You know now to avoid them.

Use that knowledge to rebuild your life, a life without your wife.  End this idea of changing everyone around you and getting them to help your wife.  End this idea of changing your wife.  Abandon this idea of holding her, other men, other women, and a church, accountable.  Forget that.  There are no systemic solutions.  There are only individual ones.  Stop playing Don Quixote and tilting at windmills.  Stop entertaining this foolish notion that you can fix the system.  You can’t.  You cannot change others.  You can change only yourself.  Direct all this energy to changing YOURSELF and teaching your sons what the adults in your life didn’t teach you or that you didn’t learn.  Devote your energies to your sons, who really need to learn what you’ve learned.

You learned it the hard way.  Help your sons learn it the easier way.  Help them so hopefully they will not go through what you went through.  Help them so they will not suffer as you did.  You cannot help your wife and you cannot save your marriage.  Let them go.  Save what can be saved: Yourself, your sons, your sanity, and your future.

Let them go.”

Another thing:

Your boys’ home as it exists now cannot be put back together.  Your wife destroyed it to the point that not one stone remains standing.  The best that can be done now is to give them a different home, one you have built yourself, and one that works according to biblical principles and Red Pill truths.

I can’t, and won’t, help you reassemble a home built on the folly of returning a mentally ill, spiritually blind wife to you.  That’s a foundation of sand.  I will help you build a new home on the rock of the Red Pill and on the Rock.  The latter is all that can be done now.”

Deti’s words are good encouragement for any man who is going through the wringer.

Contrary to Deti’s words of resolute resignation, Bee123456 expressed hope that Sharkly’s approach might bring some compensation.

“Three reasons why this could work:

  1. Sharkly saw noticeable improvement in his wife when a counseling pastor held her feet to the fire.  If he could find another pastor to do that, then more improvement could be had.
  2. Sharkly found a counselor that has a 90% success rate treating intimacy anorexia.  Of course both parties have to be willing and that is why I do say the odds are still very slim for success.  But if a strong, firm pastor insisted that she go to this counselor, maybe she would go with some openness.
  3. Most of us have not seen this done before, a wrongly divorced guy rallying commenters to shame a church and its leaders.  Before the internet and inexpensive websites, this was not doable.  Maybe this will work.

Even if this does not work for Sharkly, it does seem like a good idea to expose the foolishness of the Seeker Friendly church movement; “come as you are”, “everyone is welcome”, women pastors so we can be relate-able, etc.

Thinking out loud here, and this is where I and Sharkly could be totally wrong; the Scripture you shared from 1 Corinthians 7 says to let the unbelieving spouse go in peace.  Maybe fighting against her leaving and the public shaming of her enablers is not letting go in peace.”

That last sentence poses a question that only Sharkly can answer, as he must be the one who counts the costs… and the rewards.

Feeriker wrote,

“Finding a counseling pastor, or even a professional Christian counselor who isn’t pussywhipped/cunt-worshiping and who will hold THE WIFE accountable for her behavior within the marriage is nigh on impossible today.  Sharkly might very well have found the last of a dying breed in the pastor who successfully got his wife started on the right path.  If so, that’s a tragic and horrifying indictment on the state of both the church and the Christian Counseling profession.

Beyond that, my own experience of having walked in shoes very similar to Sharky’s leads me to endorse Deti’s and Nikolai’s conclusions, although certainly without enthusiasm.  I, too, resisted that conclusion and fought tooth and nail to salvage my first marriage, but ultimately realized that it was impossible.  It takes two to make a marriage work, but only one to destroy it.  When one half makes it clear that they are determined that the marriage is over, it’s over.”

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“…while I might be pessimistic about saving Sharkly’s marriage, I am wholeheartedly on board with exposing, shaming, and, if they persist in the error of their ways, hopefully helping to precipitate events that will destroy Whitewater Community “Church” and others just like it.  These churchian organizations are a cancer on the Body of Christ!”

Blackjack also had some very reasonable arguments which essentially agreed with Nikolai and Deti.

Swanny River added,

“If the likely divorce comes to pass next month, then Sharkly’s sons need prayer for knowing to reject their mother, follow God, and yet to somehow still honor her.
I don’t know what honoring a woman like that would look like, but if they are to follow the Lord, then they’ll need great maturity to do that, and yet to reject all of her dark and sinful manipulations.  Maybe a new wife and red pill home will be the incubator for his sons to grow that way, but if not, they need our prayers, which you are probably already doing since you are reading and commenting here.
Your willingness to go to war was blessed by God, and Sharkly had a later stage intervention in his marriage than yours perhaps, so I can see your advice as being consistent with what you (and Feeriker and Nikolai) have learned.  However, I see Sharkly being faithful also, even though it is from a weak position, tactically speaking, compared with when you drew the line for your wife.  But he has written before, and maybe you didn’t see it, but if the divorce is made final, then that is when he plans to apply 1st Corinthians 7.”

Yes, it is a war, and the stakes are high.  Too many men have been laundered and hung to dry.

If a man doesn’t stand up for his family, home and livelihood, there is no hope for the future.

What is the sum value of prolonging the fight?

Deti and Nikolai are urging Sharkly to gracefully bow out, do some introspection, and start afresh.  This is good standard advice for the man who is financially destitute, spiritually ruined and emotionally devastated by the breakup — the man who needs to put himself back together again before he can do anything else in life.

But I don’t get the impression that Sharkly is a broken man, so I won’t give the same advice.  Not just yet anyway, and for a reason that no one brought up in the comments.

If a man has the conviction, the fortitude, and the financial security to kick back, then he should.  If every man who was cucked and frivolously divorced came back with a sucker punch from ћәll, then the converged infidels would quickly fold, and the dawn of a new era shall appear.

12 And we urge you, brethren, to recognize those who labor among you, and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, 13 and to esteem them very highly in love for their work’s sake.  Be at peace among yourselves.
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all.  15 See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all.
16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
19 Do not quench the Spirit.  20 Do not despise prophecies.  21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.  22 Abstain from every form of evil.
23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.  24 He who calls you is faithful, who also will do it.” ~ 1st Thessalonians 5:12-24 (NKJV)

If wimmin want to play dirty, there is no reason why men should sit quietly and do nothing, especially for the sake of “peace” when there is no peace.  Men should take right action for a noble purpose.

Declare a war of attrition.  Let’s see who goes under first.

Don’t do it out of revenge or spite.  Do it out of conviction.  Do it because it’s courageous.  Do it because it’s the right thing to do.  Do it to honor the institution of marriage.  Do it to glorify God.  Do it for the boys!!!

Concluding Statements

What Sharkly is doing is ugly as hell, but someone has to do it.  Someone has to sound the charge.  Someone has to send a clear message that…

  1. The institution of marriage and family is not to be toyed with.
  2. F*cking around is unacceptable behavior for those who profess Christ.
  3. Feminist broads are of the devil.

I won’t tell Sharkly to sit down and shut up.  No, I will urge him on!

Whether she ever comes back, or s1uts off forever, it is not in your hands.  But you might have some control over how much she can steal and destroy.  Either way, let her not attack nor destroy your marriage without full awareness of her actions, accompanied by remorse and regrets.  Perhaps the Lord might then use this tribulation as a call to her repentance.

According to a recent update from Sharkly, his efforts have already began having an impact!

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23 Responses to Countersink

  1. Lexet Blog says:

    I’m going to have to figure out what type of church Sharkly goes to.

    It sounds eerily like many new Calvinist/the gospel coalition style churches with their divorce response.

    Our generation of churches are run by fools who mysteriously made it years in the ministry without repenting of an error. They worship celebrity pastors, who have done the same.

    It’s what happens when our style of worship is predicated on following mans tradition or just a popular man, and not what’s set out in scripture.

    God has no grandchildren. Each generation must fight against doctrinal error.

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    • Jack says:

      If I remember correctly, he has a Mennonite background, but his description sounds NOTHING like the Mennonite churches I have known. Sharkly’s descriptions of his church atmosphere bear a sharp resemblance to that of the Baptist church I grew up in.

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  2. Scott says:

    In my case, it was the mainline Church of Christ. This is supposedly one of the uber “conservative” Bible belt faith groups. But it is totally converged garbage on this issue, and that was in 2000, twenty years ago.

    No cheating (except her). No lying. No drug or alcohol addiction. No violence. Nothing that these churches often use a excuses for divorce. I was a standard issue, American husband. I had my problems, my faults, like everyone else. But I was devoted and completely committed to lifelong marriage.

    Upon hearing that she was out chasing a married with children man, they blamed me. Essentially, I was “neglecting” her needs. I chased her into the arms of another man by being such a dud. I never did get the scoop on exactly what I did wrong, but somehow I caused it.

    The church had kind of a mini-split over it, as we were a high profile couple in the congregation. There were those on “my” side, who were not happy with the way the elders handled it.

    The result for me was 10 years in the spiritual wilderness. Playing the field. F%$#ing anything that moved. No remorse, no guilt, not a care in the world. I still, to this day don’t really trust churches to get it right, especially on this issue. They caused me to stumble, and this is a very big sin, as far as I understand the texts. They will be held accountable for the marriages they let fall apart under their watch.

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    • Scott says:

      I’ll add to this. The churches response did not “cause” me to sin. Anymore than I caused my wife too. However, I had a valid marriage that was blown up and no one with any authority tried to save it. Depression, suicidality (the only time in my life), bitterness, all of it downstream from something that should not have been allowed to happen.

      The trail of crap in the wake of that emotional and psychological storm reverberated for years, even into my current marriage. My wife should not have to deal with that. The calm from it proves to be elusive even today. And even though I do not pine for my ex or want any kind of reconciliation, it is a rift that only happened because sin was piled upon sin until there was no hope at all.

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      • feeriker says:

        Churches that condone frivolous divorce, either through cowardly refusal to discipline the offending spouse or by unjustly taking sides, have effectively said to the aggrieved party “everything we’ve ever said that has led you to believe that God’s Word is the Supreme Law that we live by is bullshit. We’ve played you, suckah!”

        While we can belch the party line that this is no excuse to sin or, God forbid, apostacize (both certainly true), that kind of kick-in-the-nuts betrayal by the people who are supposed to be your brothers and sisters in Christ, the people who are supposed to “have your back,” is nothing short of devastating. It is literally the kind of thing that can tear your soul to shreds. It takes a man stronger than most of us will ever be to walk away from that with our faith intact. Mine certainly wasn’t after my first marriage was destroyed.

        The result for me was 10 years in the spiritual wilderness. Playing the field. F%$#ing anything that moved. No remorse, no guilt, not a care in the world. I still, to this day don’t really trust churches to get it right, especially on this issue. They caused me to stumble, and this is a very big sin, as far as I understand the texts. They will be held accountable for the marriages they let fall apart under their watch

        Those in that church who helped destroy your marriage through neglect and cowardice are going to pay very dearly for it when life on this Earth ends for them. There will be a reckoning!

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  3. Adam says:

    Sharkly has my sympathy but I am not going to offer any advice. Nor weigh in on what I think of the entire affair. Divorces are messy and awful. The process is the punishment. The longer the process continues then the worse it is for everyone concerned.

    My own divorce 18 months ago was exactly the same as everyone else’s here; blindsided. I wrote some articles about it, and I spoke to some people. But I never took any advice. A man’s gotta do what he’s gotta do. And live with the consequences. I gave her what she wanted, set my price, made her pay, and got out of there as a fast as I could. 18 months later I still think about her every damn day. But I am content with how I played it.

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  4. feeriker says:

    Sharkly will surely step in to clarify, but I don’t believe Whitewater has ever been HIS church. It’s one that his wife chose to attend at the urging of some “friends” who’ve been helping her blow up her marriage.

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  5. Ed Hurst says:

    Like Adam, I can’t imagine giving advice at this point. But it all makes me wonder for the thousandth time whatever happened to the image of husband and wife as a team, against the world if need be?

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  6. lastmod says:

    Men like you helped wreck that Ed

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    • Ed Hurst says:

      Ad hominem serves no purpose, Jason, except to teach others to ignore you.

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    • Jack says:

      WTH Jason? Do I need to remind you not to attack other commenters again?!? Thou shalt not tempt the moderator by using the personal pronoun “you”! I’m near the line of my tolerance.

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      • lastmod says:

        I have no idea what “Ad hominem”means.I was already ignored in most instances by Ed. It wasn’t an attack. It was an observation.

        As for your tolerance Jack…or Sigma…..you shouldn’t even care what I think by being a “Sigma”

        I have pointed out poorly (I must admit) some things I find questionable with modern man-o-sphere christianity. Not from the cucks in churchianity but by actions and statements here.

        A successful marriage you spoke about in a previous post. Well, I brought this up…using the words “successful marriage” in 2017 on Dalrock. DS grabbed that, said I was incorrect, slammed me, and said the term was imporper and incorrect. Only a “good” marriage can be with god. Successful means materialism and other stuff.

        Notice he did not come on here and jump on this posting about this tipic. Did he correct you with wording choice? No.

        I have a few theories but Ed here and you personally would find reasons and excuses to call this an attack

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      • Jack says:

        Ad Hominem: The debater rejects his opponents’ argument on one of the following premises.

        Any claim that the opponent makes is false, because of a particular personal characteristic.

        Any argument that the opponent makes is bad, because of a particular personal characteristic.

        The Ad Hominem tactic is a fallacy whenever these implicit premises are false, dubious, or significantly unrelated to the issue of debate.

        If you want to argue that Ed has caused Sharkly’s church or any church to disregard marriage as the image of God, then you’ll need to cite some facts and evidence. I don’t believe you can do it. If you want to pursue this, then post it on your own blog.

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      • lastmod says:

        Ah….thank you. I listed serious “personal” chaeracteristics about Ed.

        Ed’s statement made was unrelaated to the debate

        It was in fact “gee, I wish all marriages could be like mine”

        I don’t know Sharkly’s church. Ed mentioned that I had a SA background to which he added “oh…that explains alot”

        With no evidence, fact, and used preconceived notions.

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      • Jack says:

        If you insist on making everything personal, then you’re over the line.

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  7. lastmod says:

    My blog is useless. I know this, what I discuss, think or believe no man (or woman) for that matter would even consider. It’s not because I am “so unique” it’s merely just an outlet. I won’t attempt to dissect Sharkly’s marriage with facts because I can’t call up his wife and ask her. His church “won’t” be coming over to my blog to discuss it, nor should they.

    I can say I am “sorry” and I “wish” things could be better for him, or turned out better for him in this matter. I do mean that, and I believe that Sharkly knows that from our on / off communication over the years.

    I have never wished ill on a married man, his children or his family…..even those I disagree with.

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    • Jack says:

      Jason, with a heavy heart, I must inform you that you will be put on moderation until I feel the need to hear your comments again. This is the first time I have ever done this.
      I sincerely wish you well.

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  8. Sharkly says:

    While I have a brief moment, I’ll try to address a few questions here.
    I never attended Whitewater Community Church or its Mennonite predecessor called “Swiss Church”. My Father grew up in a large functional Mennonite church called Emmaus Mennonite Church. It has since gone down hill pretty fast. Swiss Church was a smaller more seeker-friendly Mennonite church that was more in tune with the world. A while back they sold their old building that looked barely recognizable as a church from the outside, changed their name to Whitewater Community Church, and built the big metal “hog shed” that they will re-infest once father-government tells them they are allowed back inside. It would seem their goal is to make their church a place that has enough appeal to the unsaved that unsaved would come there even when they don’t care to follow God. Which is what they have now achieved, a congregation of lost souls who sing their love for Jesus while they refuse to follow Jesus direction for spiritual discipline, or follow any other thing in the Bible a Feminist might object to. It has become a place to go engage in spiritual self-deception. While Jesus said “What God has joined together, let no man separate”, these folks will actually assist you in divorcing, and claim that your husband trying to correct your infidelity with words is “verbal abuse” and with Bible verses, is “spiritual abuse”. They really do worship whores above God, and too consistently to be any fluke.

    I don’t think Jason and I have any argument. I believe he is arguing with Ed. I understand Jason’s frustration with the apostate churches, which is most every church that I can tell, in this wicked and adulterous generation. I also understand his similar frustration with the manosphere, which has some extra knowledge, but few actionable solutions for both his situation and mine.

    The manosphere’s problems are much like the churches problems. There are certain basic false presuppositions upon which the whole edifice is built, which leads the whole building to crumble and cave in when facing the world’s opposition. They’ve already conceded the truth away before they even start to look for solutions. They either start with the churchian theology of women being in the image of their hermaphrodite god/goddess, or they start off with godless evolutionary-psychology. Either way, you don’t logically arrive at absolute divinely required holy patriarchy. They both have to force their logic to arrive at patriarchy. If God didn’t make men a whole order of magnitude higher in divine rank and glory, such that no woman can equal any man here in the flesh, then patriarchy will only work for some blessed men, and only while they’re on top of the world.

    My confidence comes from being that man, bold, brave, strong, smart, confident, rich(at one time), and not bad looking, and even while I tried my best, I still got continually shit on. I know you can’t make game work to make a whore into a saint if she is set on being an evil whore. Jason is right in that regard, what the manosphere has been proposing in the past, will not work, and certainly won’t work for everyone. The book of Hosea records a prophet divinely empowered and tasked to love a whore like God loves. And the crazy whore rejects all the good and God-like care and constantly runs to the arms of evil to cuckold her divinely loving husband. To have a good marriage requires a lot from both parties, but the character of the marriage is primarily dependent on the weakest link, the weaker vessel, the defiler, the woman.

    My project to expose the public face of Whitewater Community Church to be a divorce-enabling Feminist cesspit of cowardice, rebellion against God’s word, and sexual immorality including homosexual pedophilia by their church leaders. Is a worthy cause for me, and for others to join me in. If we can make one churchian franchise rue the day they decided to wedge between a man and his family by publicly calling them out and calling for their repentance, and exposing their wickedness to the light, then we can do this to other churches, and for other men, until the churches will fear the servants of God enough to try to follow the word of God, for fear their wicked deeds will no longer be kept hidden, but will be exposed and left a standing testimony to their service of Satan. Repentance must start with the house of God, and so must discipline. And WE, men of God, must discipline the wayward churches, as servants of Jesus Christ, to make his bride ready. It won’t be every church that is Christ’s bride. The Mother of Harlots had many daughters! There is only one true bride, and it is made up of us, those who are not too cowardly to fight the world’s system on behalf of the Most High God, who has bestowed His image and glory on men like us, to be His representatives in matters like this. We who are God’s servants will even judge the angels. How much less shall we not rule over these uncircumcised-of-heart philistines who defy this army of the living God. I will fight these whoring enemies of the Lord until they bow before him as his footstool. Join me! It is a noble purpose to fight in the army of God, to bring many to righteousness. Don’t be fainthearted! Greater is He that is in me, than he that is in the world. And thanks already to Jack and those others of you who are already helping God and me in this cause. My respect for you is undeniable, because I can clearly see that you are warriors in the army of the Most High.

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    • feeriker says:

      Repentance must start with the house of God, and so must discipline

      THIS.

      I used to wonder why the church was so clearly uninterested in either apologetics or real evangelism. Now I know.

      It is not only pointless and futile for the current corrupt facade that is the church to engage in either apologetics or evangelism, but actively harmful. ONLY after the Body has been purged of the satanic rot and corruption that is currently destroying it will it have any positive effect for the Kingdom.

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    • Adam says:

      Give ’em hell, Sharkly.

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  9. Sharkly says:

    I just noticed that the Cunt-Worshippers at Whitewater Community Church have turned public comments on for the three most recent videos at their YouTube channel where these Feminists do their public outscreech. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA92zW6tyCIbXk5BvicfnTA/videos
    If any of you are adept at leaving appropriate comments you can take to task these homewrecking servants of Satan. I’d certainly encourage you to do so, on my boys’ behalf. You can “troll” them for a great and Godly cause. A few of their congregants apparently go there based upon the “views”, while their church is shut down, but conspicuously not nearly as many as show up to be seen when that cunt-club is open and socially operational.

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  10. Sharkly says:

    Well, that didn’t last long! JPF and I each left a comment on one of their YouTube videos asking why they would not endeavor to get my wife to quit her frivolous divorce, and they deleted our comments and turned off comments on all their videos. Apparently they are nor prepared to give an account for their Feminist actions, against men, that they try to pull off in secret.

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