Wallowing in the Red Pill

How much frustration and suffering are necessary for repentance?

How much bitterness and hopelessness are required for wallowing?

This post was originally published last year at Lexet Iustitia, and has since been re-edited.

Readership: Christian men;

There is a ministry out there for men, and unlike others I have seen, it recognizes the fact that there are many single men in the church who tend to be ignored by the church (as an embarrassing inconvenience IMHO).

From the Bitter Taste of the Red Pill.

“We are not interested in bitching, raging, or defeatist moping.  Patriarchs do not wallow in whatever red pill boilerplate they picked up from [popular bloggers] or their clones.  They do not, in all frankness, act like Jesus is not reigning, and exercising dominion, progressively ordering the world to make his enemies his footstool.”
. . .
“We know that cynicism and bitterness are born of disappointment and mistreatment.  And it’s not a sin to feel upset with how Jesus is ordering the world — and your life.  But Galatians 5 is clear that the Christian life is characterized by joy, hope, contentment, faithfulness, peace, and other spiritual fruits.  Conversely, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, and dissensions are works of the flesh, and those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.”

I take umbrage at the word “wallow”.  Wallowing implies that a person stays focused on something for years and years, while being unwilling or unable to move on.  It also implies that there is something better to move on to.

wallowing elephant seal

There is a point to be made about the problem of bitterness within the men’s community, and the constant griping and “bitching”, but the sentiment expressed above shows a lack of understanding that “taking the Red Pill” requires one to go through a great deal of frustration and disappointment.  In fact, this is the very same impetus that brings men around to repent of the Blue Pill mindset, including Chivalry (male feminism), and Churchianity.

Furthermore, I don’t understand the sentiment the ministry has when it comes to discussing the problems men face and fighting the larger battles.  Yes, inspiration, encouragement, and maintaining a hopeful attitude has an important place.  But they seem to condemn any expression of frustration and disappointment.

They also interpret the fruits of the spirit to include only the positive aspects of one’s own emotional state.  But the fruits of ministry go far beyond that.  The renewed lives and faith of the men coming out of the cuckster conundrum are the spiritual fruit of our labor, not merely our own joy, hope, contentment, etc.

The Red Pill is not for everyone.  Red Pill knowledge can only benefit a subset of the population, namely, men who have run through the gauntlet of marriage, divorce, and the courts, and who also have the temerity to not only admit their own faults, but also see that the whole societal system is set against them.

Pretty much everyone over 40 doesn’t see the problem, either.  They have too much invested into the system for and have a sunk-cost mindset.  To add to that, the West has far greater immediate problems than domestic relationship issues, and while the relationship issues are a distant cause to many of our current problems, their immediate impact upon society is creating negative effect on morale.

Real ministry is tough work, because you have to get your hands dirty lifting others out of the filth — and it’s truly squalid!  When you see the world for what it is, after being lied to by the marketing departments of the world, it is something you can’t ever forget.

grey elephant seal

Concerning the larger battles, are we to ignore enemies joyfully and walk around smiling with our heads in the mud?

For those who think that red pill solutions can take place on a societal level in the West, I can see why “wallowing” would be a criticism.  MGTOW is a community that wallows (especially on YouTube).  And while the MRA community really tries to make a difference,  they shoot themselves in the foot on a regular basis.  I don’t see any group as being viable under our current system, at least any time soon.

When it comes to red pill issues for society at large, my only opinion is that systems leading to chaos are failed systems, and failed systems will inevitably be replaced.

I wish IGTBAM the best of luck with their ministry.  But to gain ground, they will have to face those unpleasant facts and opinions that are undignified and unpopular.



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5 Responses to Wallowing in the Red Pill

  1. Ed Hurst says:

    Interesting, Jack. I often wonder why so many bloggers seem to make Red Pill awareness the core, or the whole, of their Christian religion. When I first ran across it some years ago, I realized it could only be a mere subset of things I need to do to progress in peace with God.


    • Lexet Blog says:

      You have to take into account that people who blog tend to only talk about certain things – things that they aren’t able to talk about elsewhere.

      As these are issues guys can’t really bring up in most churches, this is their underground forum.


      • Ed Hurst says:

        Thanks, but I wasn’t referring to that. A few of those blogs take every news item and weave it into an obsession with how “game” answers all human questions. A lot of those writers make it their religion, as if the Red Pill way is a full proxy for the gospel message.


  2. Sharkly says:

    Matthew 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. …
    10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.


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