One wimminz impeccable argument on how abortion is the direct result of men’s irresponsibility.
“Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” ~ Matthew 7:13-14 KJV
I just came across this article from exactly one year ago, and I can’t resist reposting it with a commentary. It’s utterly hilarious!
Design Mom: My Twitter Thread on Abortion (2018 September 13)
H/T: Just Ambitious to Serve Communications (JATSC): ‘Irresponsible ejaculation causes abortion’ (2018 September 16)
This could have very well been published on the Babylon Bee, and no one would have suspected that it wasn’t satire; that a woman actually wrote this with sincere convictions.
This is an excellent example of what I meant when I wrote that a person can have a seemingly rational argument, but still be ridiculously in the wrong.
The problem with her argument is that she conveniently omitted the pertinent facts and information. I’ll attempt to fill in the blanks with my commentary.
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Today, I tried something new. I wrote a Twitter thread for the first time. It’s about abortion, and how I think we need to approach the topic differently. I thought I’d share it here, because I know many of you don’t use Twitter.
So here’s the thread, broken up into small Tweet-size pieces. : )
I’m a mother of six, and a Mormon. I have a good understanding of arguments surrounding abortion, religious and otherwise. I’ve been listening to men grandstand about women’s reproductive rights, and I’m convinced men actually have zero interest in stopping abortion. Here’s why…
Mormon… that says something, but I’m not sure exactly what. (I’ll ask Boxer to comment.) Reading between the lines, I’m already getting the feeling that this woman hates her life, and maybe her husband too, but she’s lazy and doesn’t want to do anything about it, even something as simple as changing her attitude to be thankful for her family.
It’s All Menz Fault!
If you want to stop abortion, you need to prevent unwanted pregnancies. And men are 100% responsible for unwanted pregnancies.
100% men’s fault, you say? Heh… Men are not 100% responsible for the fact that the woman they just impregnated doesn’t want to bear their offspring. Men are not 100% responsible for her unilateral choice to abort either. From the man’s perspective that’s a classic bait and switch. “Here’s my body. Insert your c0ck in my vagary… (intercourse commences) Oh, you actually came in me! What a surprise! Didn’t see that one coming! (A month later…) Ohhh, I’m pregnant! No, I changed my mind, I don’t want a baby.”
No for real, they are. Perhaps you are thinking: IT TAKES TWO! And yes, it does take two for intentional pregnancies. But ALL unwanted pregnancies are caused by the irresponsible ejaculations of men. Period.
Translation: Sex can be great, except for that annoying risk of getting pregnant. Never mind the fact that God created the male-female union to result in procreation; Itz duh manz fault!
Don’t believe me? Let me walk you through it. Let’s start with this: women can only get pregnant about 2 days each month. And that’s for a limited number of years.
Not true! I’ve known women who conceived while on the pill and/or from having sex during their menses. In reality, anytime you have sex, there’s a chance of pregnancy, even when using many forms of birth control.
That makes 24 days a year a women [sic] might get pregnant. But men can cause pregnancy 365 days a year. In fact, if you’re a man who ejaculates multiple times a day, you could cause multiple pregnancies daily. In theory a man could cause 1000+ unwanted pregnancies in just one year.
There’s a twang of penis envy here. Note how she’s assuming polygyny. She’s a good Mormon wife.
And though their sperm gets crappier as they age, men can cause unwanted pregnancies from puberty till death. So just starting with basic biology + the calendar it’s easy to see men are the issue here.
Starting with basic biology, fertile women get pregnant. It’s easy to see how women who spread their legs are the issue here.
But what about birth control? If a woman doesn’t want to risk an unwanted pregnancy, why wouldn’t she just use birth control? If a women [sic] can manage to figure out how to get an abortion, surely she can get birth control, right? Great questions.
She portrays men’s fecundity as a power to be envied, while the fertility of women is little more than a risk of pregnancy. Where is the honor for women as child bearers?
Modern birth control is possibly the greatest invention of the last century, and I am very grateful for it. It’s also brutal. The side effects for many women are ridiculously harmful. So ridiculous, that when an oral contraception for men was created, it wasn’t approved… [she inserted a pregnant paragraph break here] because of the side effects. And the list of side effects was about 1/3 as long as the known side effects for women’s oral contraception.
Men are smart enough not to ingest hormone altering drugs which are intended to screw up their body chemistry.
There’s a lot to be unpacked just in that story, but I’ll simply point out (in case you didn’t know) that as a society, we really don’t mind if women suffer, physically or mentally, as long as it makes things easier for men.
A classic example of Psychological Projection. What she means to say is, “(in case you didn’t know) …as a society, we really don’t mind if men suffer, physically or mentally, as long as it makes things easier for women.”
But good news, Men: Even with the horrible side effects, women are still very willing to use birth control. Unfortunately, it’s harder to get than it should be. Birth control options for women require a doctor’s appointment and a prescription. It’s not free, and often not cheap.
So she is inadvertently arguing that using abortion as a form of birth control is easier and cheaper than using birth control pills. We already know too many women think this way.
In fact, there are many people trying to make it more expensive by fighting to make sure insurance companies refuse to cover it. Oral contraceptives for women can’t be acquired easily, or at the last minute. And they don’t work instantly.
Yes, sin is rather frustrating. You can’t fool God, you can’t revamp biology on the fly, and you can’t change human desire to F*cky F*cky. When will you learn to go with the flow?
If we’re talking about the pill, it requires consistent daily use and doesn’t leave much room for mistakes, forgetfulness, or unexpected disruptions to daily schedules. And again, the side effects can be brutal. I’M STILL GRATEFUL FOR IT PLEASE DON’T TAKE IT AWAY.
She’s coming closer, but she still won’t come out and say that abortion is a one-off visit to the clinic, making it more convenient than using birth control pills.
Wimmin want Men to Trust Condoms to be Miraculous
I’m just saying women’s birth control isn’t simple or easy. In contrast, let’s look at birth control for men, meaning condoms. Condoms are readily available at all hours, inexpensive, convenient, and don’t require a prescription. They’re effective, and work on demand, instantly.
…and she doesn’t have to do anything about that. If she asks him to wear a condom, then it’s no longer her responsibility. The perfect solution!
Men can keep them stocked up just in case, so they’re always prepared. Amazing! They are so much easier than birth control options for women. As a bonus, in general, women love when men use condoms. They keep us from getting STDs, they don’t lessen our pleasure during sex…
Women love using condoms? In my experience, women hate using condoms even more than men do.
… or prevent us from climaxing. And the best part? Clean up is so much easier — no waddling to the toilet as your jizz drips down our legs. So why in the world are there ever unwanted pregnancies? Why don’t men just use condoms every time they have sex? Seems so simple, right?
Ouch! I’m getting the impression that she’s a frigid whife who’s never known anything other than duty sex. A woman who is really crazy about her man wouldn’t waste a precious drop.
Oh. I remember. Men don’t love condoms. In fact, men frequently pressure women to have sex without a condom. And it’s not unheard of for men to remove the condom during sex, without the women’s permission or knowledge. (Pro-tip: That’s assault.)
Women do the same thing to men. What is it called when a woman tries to trap a man by having his baby? But women wouldn’t think of that as “assault”.
I’ll say it again; if you’re having sex, there’s always a chance of pregnancy.
JATSC adds here, “Stealthing’ is a new sex trend where men remove condoms without partner’s consent.”
If women remove or puncture condoms without partner’s consent, would that be stealthing? If the condom accidentally breaks, would that still be stealthing? Where do you draw the line?
Guess what? You’re already way past the line and into the thick of it. So you’re just complaining because things did not go as you wished, and your actions actually led to the natural consequence.
Why would men want to have sex without a condom? Good question. Apparently it’s because for the minutes they are penetrating their partner, having no condom on gives the experience more pleasure.
It’s not just about pleasure. For many people, commingling swill is a deeply emotional bonding experience. It also alters one’s body chemistry.
So… there are men willing to risk getting a woman pregnant — which means literally risking her life, her health, her social status, her relationships, and her career, so that they can experience a few minutes of slightly more pleasure? Is that for real? Yes. Yes it is.
Yes, sexual relations can change a woman’s life, health, social status, relationships, and career, as well as produce children. Has she ever considered the longitudinal consequences of engaging in sexual relations?
What are we talking about here pleasure-wise? If there’s a pleasure scale, with pain beginning at zero and going down into the negatives, a back-scratch falling at 5, and an orgasm without a condom being a 10, where would sex with a condom fall? Like a 7 or 8?
She seems obsessed with the pleasure aspect of sex, and fails to consider any of the other cofactors.
So it’s not like sex with a condom is not pleasurable, it’s just not as pleasurable. An 8 instead of a 10. Let me emphasize that again: Men regularly choose to put women at massive risk by having non-condom sex, in order to experience a few minutes of slightly more pleasure.
Women already put themselves at massive “risk” simply by entering into a situation where sex could occur. Would a woman ever see that “risk” ahead of time and take precautionary measures? No, that’s too much work. It’s easier to just blame the man.
Men should have self-control, so they can do what Wimmin want them to do
Now keep in mind, for the truly condom-averse, men also have a non-condom, always-ready birth control built right in, called the pull out. It’s not perfect, and it’s a favorite joke, but it is also 96% effective.
If a man can make himself pull out every single time, he’s either a porn actor, or he doesn’t feel that passionate about the woman. Losing control is a big part of what makes sex “good”.
So surely, we can expect men who aren’t wearing a condom to at least pull out every time they have sex, right?
And why not?
Perhaps a man might be overwhelmed by lurrve, passion, and desire, perchance? If he’s not, that’s a shamefully poor reflection on the female.
Well, again, apparently it’s slightly more pleasurable to climax inside a vagina than, say, on their partner’s stomach.
Here we go back to the obsession with pleasure. Give me a break! The pleasure is not without a purpose.
So men are willing to risk the life, health and well-being of women, in order to experience a tiny bit more pleasure for like 5 seconds during orgasm.
Men are also risking their own life, health, and well-being in their gambit to procreate, especially in our modern gynocentric, pound-me-too society.
And… don’t underestimate those 5 seconds of orgasm – that’s the culmination of thousands of years of breeding being thrown into the future (or a latex bag).
It’s mind-boggling and disturbing when you realize that’s the choice men are making. And honestly, I’m not as mad as I should be about this, because we’ve trained men from birth that their pleasure is of utmost importance in the world. (And to dis-associate sex and pregnancy.)
More Projection about pleasure and dismantling it from procreation. Pleasure is obviously a running theme of her monologue. Do you think she’ll bring it up again?
While we’re here, let’s talk a bit more about pleasure and biology. Did you know that a man CAN’T get a woman pregnant without having an orgasm? Which means that we can conclude getting a woman pregnant is a pleasurable act for men.
Hasn’t she ever heard of the potency of precum?
But did you further know that men CAN get a woman pregnant without HER feeling any pleasure at all? In fact, it’s totally possible for a man to impregnate a woman even while causing her excruciating pain, trauma or horror.
True, pregnancies are typically painful. But if you don’t enjoy the sex, and you don’t want a child, then why are you doing it? Duty sex confirmed.
In contrast, a woman can have non-stop orgasms with or without a partner and never once get herself pregnant. A woman’s orgasm has literally nothing to do with pregnancy or fertility — her clitoris exists not for creating new babies, but simply for pleasure.
There’s that P word again… Are we surprised? She says her clit is only for her pleasure, not for making babies, but somehow, for reasons unbeknownst to wimmin, that pleasurable clitoral orgasm has suckered her into procreating. The joke’s on her!
No matter how many orgasms she has, they won’t make her pregnant. Pregnancies can only happen when men have an orgasm. Unwanted pregnancies can only happen when men orgasm irresponsibly.
Only? So let me be sure I’m following correctly here. Fapping to RedTube is more pleasurable than duty sex, but I’d consider that to be an irresponsible orgasm. But she says, “Unwanted pregnancies can only happen when men orgasm irresponsibly”. So can we conclude that watching internet porn can cause a pregnancy, and one that is unwanted, no less? Taking this one step further, if we outlawed internet p0rn, then abortion would never be necessary!
Wouldn’t it be more reasonable to assume a correlation between duty sex and unwanted pregnancies?
What this means is a women [sic] can be the sluttliest slut [sic LOL] in the entire world who loves having orgasms all day long and all night long and she will never find herself with an unwanted pregnancy unless a man shows up and ejaculates irresponsibly.
Toxic masculinity strikes again! How dare you interrupt a s1ut’s joyride with your pleasurable ejaculation!
Women enjoying sex does not equal unwanted pregnancy and abortion. Men enjoying sex and having irresponsible ejaculations is what causes unwanted pregnancies and abortion.
It takes two to progenerate. Women who abort go to clinics on their own initiative, often without even informing the man. I’d say “a women” who wants to be sexually active with a living man, but who also considers abortion as a preferred alternative to bearing a child, is the one who causes unwanted pregnancies and abortion. If we must foist the responsibility onto men, then the solution is not to bang “a women” who want to withhold the fruit of their loins.
Let’s talk more about responsibility.
Heh… Of course, what she means by “responsibility” is Wimminz opinions about what they believe should be Menz responsibility.
Men often don’t know, and don’t ask, and don’t think to ask, if they’ve caused a pregnancy. They may never think of it, or associate sex with making babies at all. Why? Because there are 0 consequences for men who cause unwanted pregnancies.
Zero consequences?!?!? Paternity suit? Child support? Wait, those are benefits (for her), not consequences!
Next, she details three possible outcomes. (1) She aborts secretly. (2) She has the baby secretly. (3) She has the baby and uses it for sextortion.
There are a couple more possibilities which she never mentions: (4) She informs him that she’s pregnant by him and that she’s getting an abortion whether he agrees or not. (5) She informs him that she’s pregnant by him, and carries the baby to term while maintaining proper health and nutrition, which is her reasonable service. Meanwhile, she is grateful to have been chosen by God to become a progenitor of future generations.
These last two responses would be the most honest responses of all. But an honest response is not feasible for the obvious reason that it would show her to be the savage, scamming Sheila she truly is.
If the woman decides to have an abortion, the man may never know he caused an unwanted pregnancy with his irresponsible ejaculation.
If the woman decides to have the baby, or put the baby up for adoption, the man may never know he caused an unwanted pregnancy with his irresponsible ejaculation, or that there’s now a child walking around with 50% of his DNA.
Let me correct your inadequate reasoning for you. If the woman decides to never tell the man about her pregnancy, the man may never know he fathered a child with his bullseye shot. Her having an abortion has nothing to do with him not knowing, except that it makes it easier for her to prevent him from knowing.
If the woman does tell him that he caused an unwanted pregnancy and that she’s having the baby, the closest thing to a consequence for him, is that he may need to pay child support. But our current child support system is well-known to be a joke.
Yes, the child support system is a failure because it can’t give her any more money than what he earns. Weak men always screw feminism up.
61% of men (or women) who are legally required to pay it, simply don’t. With little or no repercussions. Their credit isn’t even affected. So, many men keep going as is, causing unwanted pregnancies with irresponsible ejaculations and never giving it thought.
Some men might consider it irresponsible to continue offering financial support to a wimmin who frivorcenapped his child to extort monthly installments of ransom.
When the topic of abortion comes up, men might think: Abortion is horrible; women should not have abortions. And never once consider the man who CAUSED the unwanted pregnancy. If you’re not holding men responsible for unwanted pregnancies, then you are wasting your time.
Of course, we could never hold wimmin responsible for forcing themselves into having unpleasurable duty sex that results in a child they don’t want to have.
News flash! The most effective way to prevent unwanted pregnancies and irresponsible abortions is to abstain. That means stop hopping on cock! Why is she omitting the most obvious solution?
Stop protesting at clinics. Stop shaming women. Stop trying to overturn abortion laws. If you actually care about reducing or eliminating the number of abortions in our country, simply HOLD MEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
Holding people responsible for their actions sounds reasonable. Let’s repeal Roe vs. Wade and make sexual promiscuity and abortion punishable offenses!
What would that look like? What if there was a real and immediate consequence for men who cause an unwanted pregnancy? What kind of consequence would make sense? Should it be as harsh, painful, nauseating, scarring, expensive, risky, and life-altering… [here’s another pregnant pause] as forcing a woman to go through a 9-month unwanted pregnancy?
Her Argument for Castration
In my experience, men really like their testicles. If irresponsible ejaculations were putting their balls at risk, they would stop being irresponsible. Does castration seem like a cruel and unusual punishment? Definitely.
Not so fast. I know several young men who would give their left nut to empty their sack into a supermodel of their choice. I would call that a grotesque trade, or even a reward of sorts, but not a punishment.
But is it worse than forcing 500,000 women a year to puke daily for months, gain 40 pounds, and then rip their bodies apart in childbirth? Is a handful of castrations worse than women dying during forced pregnancy & childbirth?
She subscribes to the feminist emasculation/castration rhetoric. <Sigh…>
Put a castration law on the books, implement the law, let the media tell the story, and in 3 months or less, tada! abortions will have virtually disappeared. Can you picture it? No more abortions in less than 3 months, without ever trying to outlaw them. Amazing.
Legislating mandatory castration – an idea we’ve heard before. A not-so-subtle power grab.
For those of you who consider abortion to be murder, wouldn’t you be on board with having a handful of men castrated, if it prevented 500,000 murders each year?
Imagine that. She believes castrating men is preferable to the risk of pregnancy, or a normal world without Roe vs. Wade. And she never seems to realize that wimmin, not men propagate those murders – a very convenient omission.
And if not, is that because you actually care more about policing women’s bodies, morality, and sexuality, than you do about reducing or eliminating abortions? (That’s a rhetorical question.)
Wimminz actually care more about policing men’s balls with legislated castration, eliminating their progeny, and maintaining the upper hand, than they do about reducing or eliminating abortions.
Hey, you can even have the men who will be castrated bank their sperm before it happens — just in case they want to responsibly have kids someday.
That’s a cute argument, just in case they find a responsible woman who is not obsessed with abortion.
Can’t wrap your head around a physical punishment for men? Even though you seem to be more than fine with physical punishments for women? Okay. Then how about this prevention idea: At the onset of puberty, all males in the U.S. could be required by law to get a vasectomy.
A vasectomy at puberty would not eliminate toxic masculinity nor male thirst. You’ve got to remove those gonads at birth to do that.
Vasectomies are very safe, totally reversible, and about as invasive as an doctor’s exam for a woman getting a birth control prescription. There is some soreness afterwards for about 24 hours, but that’s pretty much it for side effects.
(So much better than The Pill, which is taken by millions of women in our country, the side effects of which are well known and can be brutal.)
Who would not agree that scalpels and stitches are better than pills?
If/when the male becomes a responsible adult, and perhaps finds a mate, if they want to have a baby, the vasectomy can be reversed, and then redone once the childbearing stage is over. And each male can bank their sperm before the vasectomy, just in case.
A backhanded stab at males there in the first clause. She must think she’s being kind to men by allowing them this option, but it’s not much of an option. Vasectomies can be reversed with 30-50% success. Published rates of artificial insemination in women under 40 years are about 10-15% per cycle. After 6 months of inseminations, about 50% of women are pregnant. In other words, she’s saying that female control over procreation takes precedence over male fecundity.
It’s not that wild of an idea. 80% of males in the U.S. are circumcised, most as babies. And that’s not reversible.
Hey, female “circumcision” is “not that wild of an idea” either! 80% of females in central Africa undergo genital mutilation, most as babies. And that’s not reversible either! I’m sure feminists would agree, since they value equality so much.
Don’t like my ideas? That’s fine. I’m sure there are better ones. Go ahead and suggest your own ideas. My point is that it’s nonsense to focus on women if you’re trying to get rid of abortions. Abortion is the “cure” for an unwanted pregnancy.
If you want to stop abortions, you need to prevent the “disease” – meaning, unwanted pregnancies. And the only way to do that, is by focusing on men, because: MEN CAUSE 100% OF UNWANTED PREGNANCIES. Or. IRRESPONSIBLE EJACULATIONS BY MEN CAUSE 100% OF UNWANTED PREGNANCIES.
Dicks cause abortions. Ho hum… We hear similar vague, overgeneralized arguments from the Left all the time. Guns cause shootings. Alcohol causes drunkenness. Drugs cause addictions. Society causes incarceration.
If the Right were this irrational, we might hear arguments like, Tingles cause affairs; miniskirts cause rape; mouths cause beatings; and bosses cause unemployment. We could also say that WOMEN CAUSE 100% OF UNWANTED ABORTIONS.
If you’re a man, what would the consequence need to be for you to never again ejaculate irresponsibly? Would it be money related? Maybe a loss of rights or freedoms? Physical pain?
Men are willing to endure untold severities for the sake of sex and procreation. Modern marriage and all the inherent risks are at the top of that list. There is also a growing number of men who refuse to accept those risks and forsake sex and women altogether. They’re called MGTOW’s. It’s hard to say which is worse, but as wimmin get worse, MGTOW is looking better.
Ask yourselves: What would it take for you to value the life of your sexual partner more than your own temporary pleasure or convenience?
Why does there need to be a false dilemma? Love and life should proliferate in a healthy relationship, producing mutuality, not a parasitism. To insist otherwise sounds like (more) Projection.
Are you someone who learns better with analogies? Let’s try this one: Think of another great pleasure in life, let’s say food. Think of your favorite meal, dessert, or drink.
I am guessing she is a conscientious vegan.
What if you found out that every time you indulge in that favorite food you risked causing great physical and mental pain for someone you know intimately. You might not cause any pain, but it’s a real risk.
I know exactly what you mean! Chickens, cows, and potatoes are brutally and systemically destroyed every day because McDonalds. We should pass a law to ban the cruel mockery of clowns serving horse lips in a box.
Well, you’d probably be sad, but never indulge in that food again, right? Not worth the risk!
I would be sooo sad in a world without the hamburglar! But I’ll sacrifice my carnivorous nature for the sake of not offending vegans and for the rights of soybeans.
And then, what if you further found out, there was a simple thing you could do before you ate that favorite food, and it would eliminate the risk of causing pain to someone else. Which is great news!
We could switch to vegetarian “meat” substitutes, which are comprised mostly of soybeans.
BUT the simple thing you need to do makes the experience of eating the food slightly less pleasurable. To be clear, it would still be VERY pleasurable, but slightly less so.
Lack of sufficient grease causes perpetual global hunger.
Like maybe you have to eat the food with a fork or spoon that you don’t particularly like.
The Chinese don’t like forks at all, and so instead, they eat oryza seeds and tofu with sticks. That’s why they are thin. Likewise, outlawing silverware in Murica would solve the obesity epidemic. In addition, soy reduces testosterone, further combating the toxic masculinity crisis.
This is turning out to be a great idea. We could eliminate hunger, obesity, cruelty to organisms, and toxic masculinity, all by eating processed soy and outlawing forks and meats.
Would you be willing to do that simple thing, and eliminate the risk of causing pain to someone you know intimately, every single time you ate your favorite food?
OF COURSE YOU WOULD.
Condoms (or even pulling out) is that simple thing. Don’t put women at risk. Don’t choose to maximize your own pleasure if it risks causing women pain.
Did she ever think, “Maybe I should just not have sex?” Or, “If I’m absolutely sure I never want to have a child, maybe I should get my tubes tied.” No, she always puts the responsibility on men.
Men mostly run our government. Men mostly make the laws. And men could eliminate abortions in 3 months or less without ever touching an abortion law or evening mentioning women.
Again, she is putting all the responsibility on men and she blames men for the outcome. In our modern feminista culture, men are not as powerful as she imagines.
In summary: STOP TRYING TO CONTROL WOMEN’S BODIES AND SEXUALITY. UNWANTED PREGNANCIES ARE CAUSED BY MEN.
The sentence in bold reveals wimminz true motives. If wimmin start controlling themselves and taking responsibility for their actions, then others will not need to do so.
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Although her argument might seem reasonable to the solipsistic hamster, her naïve self-centeredness, ignorance, and fear of the male viewpoint, transforms her essay into hilarious satire.
Selfish immature people always focus on their desire to engage in profligate sex at their whim for their own enjoyment, but they never want to take responsibility for their behavior. If things don’t go the way they want, then they blame someone else.
All these arguments about abortions, condoms, pills, castrations, vasectomies, laws and legislation, and who is responsible for what, amounts to nothing more than a Pandora’s box of selfishness and sexual sin.