Why do Women Incite Others to Emote?

Women are naturally drawn to create emotional responses in others. Will they choose to use this skill for the good of their relationships, or for their own destructive, egotistical self-centeredness?

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Why do women incite others to emote?

It is well known that men are rational, and women are emotional. Just as men prefer to deal with issues using reason and logic, women prefer to deal with life from an emotional standpoint. Women prefer to deal with things on an emotional level, because this is an arena where they are most comfortable. The world of emotions is also where women can wield their feminine powers most dexterously.

As such, women are naturally and powerfully drawn to gossip, drama, and controversy. They take an extreme interest in children, who emote readily and easily, in family feuds, and in troubled individuals who are wrestling with complicated emotions. They get a sense of power when they can influence these situations, and, depending on the particular woman, it matters very little whether that influence is positive or negative. They are too focused on the emotional exchange, and the associated power play, to ever consider the long range outcome of their influence.

A woman does want to continuously elicit emotions out of her man. Women need emotional investment from men to feel cherished and valued. Women say that a man’s display of emotion proves to her that he wants her and is willing to be involved in her (emotional) life. Women are continually plagued with doubts about how much the man really loves them. Women are deeply unsettled by this doubt, and are uncomfortable with feeling this way. But it is a need within them that comes to the surface occasionally, and when it does, they need to know that they are loved, secure, and protected. To satisfy this need, women will be happy with getting any emotion out of their man (even anger) rather than silence. Shit testing, jealousy games, pointless arguments, baiting tactics, among many other methods, are all ways in which women do this.

[Eds. note: Some Red Pill theory stands at odds with the above claims from women. So these claims might be interpreted as a rationalized explanation for women’s felt need to incite emoting from men.]

If there are no emotions at hand, then they will do what they can to stimulate or incite an emotional response from others. Women have an aspect of their nature that drives them to incite others to emote. This drive is so powerful, that women will become quite confrontational and provocative in their efforts to transform the social interaction into an emotional one.

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Problems that women face in their elicitation of men’s emotions

Women want to create and observe emotions from men, primarily as a means to connect with him in a way that is meaningful to her. But from the men’s point of view, they just hate it when the emotional response she is pecking at is always something negative, like jealousy, anger, frustration, etc. If a woman continues to carry this habit over the long term, it can really undermine the man’s good will toward her, and he will eventually grow to regard her as a nuisance to be avoided. Women don’t seem to realize that if she is always creating negative emotions, then the man will eventually wise up and shut her out. Instead, men want their woman to create more positive emotions in the relationship.

When a man gets to the point where he has to shut her out, in order to maintain his own peace of mind, men usually take the approach of offering no emotional response. This can be expected, because, for a man, too many ups and downs will cause emotional fatigue. He begins to see the cycle, and then writes it off as static nonsense. Then, when women realize that they are no longer being taken seriously by the man, they become disgusted and angered. This is because, not only do they feel powerless to influence the situation, but they also feel like he is apathetic towards them, and apathy is interpreted as the opposite of love. This is largely why women are attracted to troubled, dysfunctional men, and also why a lot of men who remain passively ‘nice’, calm, and reasonable get kicked to the curb, and possibly cuckolded out of spite. In short, too much drama brings a bad, long term outcome.

So, the main problem that women face is being caught in a dilemma between (1) being an attractive, sweet, respectful, kindhearted woman that a man would actually want to keep around, and (2) settling their own uncertainties (through shit testing, etc.) as to whether she wants to continue being around this particular man. It’s kind of like a push-pull game. It gets more complicated because both of these two extremes have their own unique sets of conundrums (too much to write here). Anyhow, women expect men to do the work of keeping the balance between these two extremes by flexing a dominant pimp hand. Hence, the stereotypical attraction for bad boys and AMOG’s.

Another problem that women face is that men prize having a masculine constitution at all times, and therefore scorn emotional expressions as weak beta faggotry. The code of conduct among males never allows a man to display fear, worry, or indecisiveness, much less any display of gushy verbal dribble. Any man who does so will immediately lose respect among his contemporaries. Ironically, many men also consider it to be inconsiderate to show their anger, lust, aggression, drive, or ambition around females. This belief could have been inculcated into men at a formative age, through their mother’s or teacher’s expectations for them to act in a Chivalrous manner.

[Note to Red Pilled men: Chivalry is not a Christian practice, nor is it conducive towards instilling Tingles in a woman.]

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Positive Emoting vs. Negative Emoting

The previous section should serve as a warning to ladies. In summary, men hate what they consider to be useless emoting for no rational purpose. Every single time a woman shit tests a man and forces him to emote, and he knows it’s just to pamper her own self-esteem and lack of faith, it takes him one more step towards thinking, ”Do I Really Need This Shit?”

So why doesn’t a woman emotionally test a man by initiating affection instead of initiating nagging or bitchiness? He’d have to be pretty cold to reject affection. Why not just ask for a hug? Or give him a kiss? Or speak plainly about your thoughts and feelings. All these types of approaches will build your relationship because he will know that you feel safe with him, and it will make him feel wanted and respected by you. Try to consider what you could do that would give him a positive emotional impression of you.

[Eds. note: These last two paragraphs should be memorized by young women, and used as a rule of thumb to govern their motivations and behavior in their efforts to elicit emotions out of others, especially men.]

But why don’t women take the positive path towards emoting their men?

Probably because in their mind it is easier to do things that make him mad, than to do things that please him. It’s dangerously easy for women to take the negative emotion route, and this is because it’s dramatically effective in the short term towards getting an immediate emotional payoff in response.

The positive approach does the opposite, but this requires a lot more thought, work, consideration, and effort out of her. Also, the payoff is long term, and not dramatically immediate. It would be an enormous benefit for women to take the long view, and accept the extra intensive labor involved as an investment in their future happiness. But too many women neglect this opportunity, while most other women remain ignorant of this.

There are some women who really understand that men’s opinions of them are affected by whether their emotional contribution is either positive or negative. Women who understand this, will purposely elicit positive emotions in order to obtain favorable responses from a guy.

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Faithfulness Maintains the Balance

Women will say that a man being emotionally unresponsive, or ignoring her, is the best method to lose a woman. But Red Pilled men will say that being emotionally unresponsive, or ignoring her, is the best method to teach a woman. That’s quite a difference of opinion, and so the level of faith, commitment and emotional investment would make a huge difference in which of these two perspectives would actually play out to be the real case in any particular relationship interaction.

It should be intuitively clear to the reader that faith and trust are central elements of a successful relationship. I believe faith and commitment are the answers to the women’s questions of uncertainty. Yet many women continue to shit test, etc., and force men to emote, long after marriage, which obviously is a lack of faith. I mean, he’s living with her, paying all her bills, fixing all her stuff, sleeping with her every night and dishing out regular passionate orgasms… He has given up all opportunities to lay other women, just to be with her in a proper relationship. Once a woman proves herself worthy of his commitment, and he has chosen her, the book is closed in his mind. There is no going back. No reconsideration. Period. Forever. He knows his decision. This is how most men are, concerning marriage. All the evidence to believe that he loves her is there, yet, it still isn’t clear to her that he is in for the long haul. That is why I say that shit tests and forced emoting are evidence of a lack of faith.

Ladies should be warned that this lack of faith and trust, evidenced by continual shit tests and forced emoting, will start rocking the boat, and if continued unchecked, the relationship will eventually capsize. This problem is greatly exacerbated when women who cannot elicit sufficient emoting to their satisfaction from their men, then turn to their sons, neighbors, and other men in their search for an emotional response to confirm their status. Moreover, women who go overboard with the shit testing and forced emoting signal themselves as faithless, low-class, unworthy partners.

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The Almighty made humans (not only women) with two natures, and then gave us the choice of which one to conform to. The feral, ‘flesh’ nature, or the regenerated identity in Christ which acts out of faith.

“Your beauty should not come from outward adornment such as braided hair or gold jewelry or fine clothes, but from the inner disposition of your heart, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious in God’s sight. For this is how the holy women of the past adorned themselves. They put their hope in God and were subject to their husbands, just as Sarah obeyed Abraham and called him lord. You are her children if you do what is right and refuse to quiver in fear.” ~ 1 Peter 3:3-6 (NKJV)

Every woman has the penchant to rebel from their lawful male authority and it started with Eve. The answer is quite straightforward, but difficult to apply. Women need to face the fact that their insecurities and doubts cause trouble in their relationship, and learn to counteract their natural tendencies.

In other words, women should learn to develop a sense of self-awareness and exercise their personal moral agency. If a woman knows this, then she can address it whenever these feelings come up.

Conclusions

A man and a woman in conjugal union should share the same heart and mind, and be pulling in the same direction. Regardless of how high a level of commitment is shown by the man, the partnership is doomed if one partner is constantly dramatizing, and creating emotional tension and uncertainty, just for the sake of nursing their own faithless doubts and insecurities.

Another thing to consider is this. The older a woman gets, the easier it will be for a man to give up on her and leave, whenever the woman cannot control herself, especially when the negative emoting reaches epic proportions. But it’s a lot harder for a man to justify leaving when his woman is faithful, emotionally mature, spiritually secure, and passionately affectionate towards him.

The choice is pretty simple. A woman can either (1) support the man she chooses, make him emote positive emotions, and he’ll cherish her for life, or (2) shit test him and tear him down with negative emoting, which will make either him or her eventually leave.

If you are a woman reading this, then carefully consider the results of both paths. This is the empowerment that ladies have.

Moulding an Excellent Wife

H/T: Spawny’s Space: Shit Test Diagnosis and Cure (June 16, 2018)

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18 Responses to Why do Women Incite Others to Emote?

  1. Farm Boy says:

    Women want to create and observe emotions from men

    This is a first world problem.

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  2. Farm Boy says:

    Why do women incite others to emote?

    Dunno. Is it
    1. They are not busy enough doing stuff for survival?
    2. They don’t have a fella to tell her to temper it
    3. They watch Oprah type shows too much
    4. It’s fun for her

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  3. OKRickety says:

    Yet many women continue to shit test, etc., and force men to emote, long after marriage, which obviously is a lack of faith.

    I presume “long after marriage” is intended to mean “long after the wedding” or similar.

    The older a woman gets, the easier it will be for a man to give up on her and leave, ….

    Yes, usually, but sometimes no. Probably easier as she decreases in physical attractiveness, but harder if you have children who are not yet adult.

    But, the $64 question, how many women will read this and act upon it?

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  4. mgtowhorseman says:

    Excellent analysis.
    Couldn’t have said it better myself! (Wink.)

    Now if only we could get the womenz to read this.
    Maybe submit it to Huffpo or the Daily Mail?

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    • Wayne says:

      Horseman, Yes, I had the same idea. I was wondering where I could send this to be published where women would read it. I do think there are a small number of marriage minded women who would take it seriously. I don’t think it would be accepted by the sites you mentioned.

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  5. Ame says:

    It is well known that men are rational, and women are emotional. Just as men prefer to deal with issues using reason and logic, women prefer to deal with life from an emotional standpoint. Women prefer to deal with things on an emotional level, because this is an arena where they are most comfortable.

    i do not agree with the word or perspective “prefer.”

    men are rational and deal with issues using reason and logic because they are rational. it’s innate. it’s how God made men.

    women deal with life from an emotional standpoint because women are emotional. it’s innate. it’s how God made women.

    The world of emotions is also where women can wield their feminine powers most dexterously.

    absolutely.

    As such, women are naturally and powerfully drawn to gossip, drama, and controversy.

    yes, and God addresses this, even specifically to women, in the Bible.

    They get a sense of power when they can influence these situations, and, depending on the particular woman, it matters very little whether that influence is positive or negative. They are too focused on the emotional exchange, and the associated power play, to ever consider the long range outcome of their influence.

    women definitely get tunnel vision, lost in the trenches with our emotions, and we loose perspective while buried in our emotions.

    A woman does want to continuously elicit emotions out of her man. Women need emotional investment from men to feel cherished and valued. Women say that a man’s display of emotion proves to her that he wants her and is willing to be involved in her (emotional) life. Women are continually plagued with doubts about how much the man really loves them. Women are deeply unsettled by this doubt, and are uncomfortable with feeling this way. But it is a need within them that comes to the surface occasionally, and when it does, they need to know that they are loved, secure, and protected. To satisfy this need, women will be happy with getting any emotion out of their man (even anger) rather than silence. Shit testing, jealousy games, pointless arguments, baiting tactics, among many other methods, are all ways in which women do this.

    i can generally agree with this.

    Women want to create and observe emotions from men, primarily as a means to connect with him in a way that is meaningful to her.

    agree.

    curious ? – do men not also want to connect with women in ways that are meaningful to them?

    But from the men’s point of view, they just hate it when the emotional response she is pecking at is always something negative, like jealousy, anger, frustration, etc.

    can’t blame them … we don’t like it when women (or men, for that matter) do that to us, too.

    If a woman continues to carry this habit over the long term, it can really undermine the man’s good will toward her, and he will eventually grow to regard her as a nuisance to be avoided. Women don’t seem to realize that if she is always creating negative emotions, then the man will eventually wise up and shut her out.

    yes. and women will avoid women like this, too.

    Instead, men want their woman to create more positive emotions in the relationship.

    can’t blame them. women want relationships with others that create more positive emotions, too.

    When a man gets to the point where he has to shut her out, in order to maintain his own peace of mind, men usually take the approach of offering no emotional response. This can be expected, because, for a man, too many ups and downs will cause emotional fatigue. He begins to see the cycle, and then writes it off as static nonsense. Then, when women realize that they are no longer being taken seriously by the man, they become disgusted and angered. This is because, not only do they feel powerless to influence the situation, but they also feel like he is apathetic towards them, and apathy is interpreted as the opposite of love.

    learning this skill of remaining neutral – no response – when dealing with an unhealthy emotional person is huge. it literally changed my life when i learned it existed and how to do it.

    So, the main problem that women face is being caught in a dilemma between (1) being an attractive, sweet, respectful, kindhearted woman that a man would actually want to keep around, and (2) settling their own uncertainties (through shit testing, etc.) as to whether she wants to continue being around this particular man. It’s kind of like a push-pull game.

    i think in a balanced, healthy relationship, this will look more like flirting – like the example i gave with Stephanie and her husband at Spawny’s. however, i am guessing you are talking about the extreme which, unfortunately, has also become the accepted norm.

    Anyhow, women expect men to do the work of keeping the balance between these two extremes by flexing a dominant pimp hand.

    i think women have always needed men to keep the balance of their emotions, it’s just that in this culture it’s been taken to the extreme for so long that it’s exhausting. even for us women who have to deal with out-of-control emotionally extreme women.

    So why doesn’t a woman emotionally test a man by initiating affection instead of initiating nagging or bitchiness? He’d have to be pretty cold to reject affection.

    i had not perceived initiating affection as a test, however, my first husband often turned down the affection i initiated … and yes, he was pretty cold. the guy i’m married to now loves it. but i still don’t see that as a test – i see it as, well, i guess you could say inviting him to engage with me on a physically emotional level.

    Why not just ask for a hug? Or give him a kiss? Or speak plainly about your thoughts and feelings. All these types of approaches will build your relationship because he will know that you feel safe with him, and it will make him feel wanted and respected by you. Try to consider what you could do that would give him a positive emotional impression of you.

    ‘speak plainly about your thoughts and feelings’ …. okay … have to giggle a bit here. first, we women need to figure out what our thoughts and feelings are before we can speak plainly about them. they get all tangled up, and we have to untangle lots of stuff so we can articulate the important things … cause … emotions get really mixed up sometimes 🙂 . it’s why a good cry session is a balm to our soul – it cleanses out all the icky, overwhelming stuff and organizes our brains so we can figure all this out 🙂

    But why don’t women take the positive path towards emoting their men?

    Probably because in their mind it is easier to do things that make him mad, than to do things that please him. It’s dangerously easy for women to take the negative emotion route, and this is because it’s dramatically effective in the short term towards getting an immediate emotional payoff in response.

    ummm … you’re assuming that women are thinking logically here and being rational. women are not thinking logically, and they are not being rational … because they are not innately logical and rational beings. it takes a lot of reprogramming for a woman to use logic to override her emotion. it definitely can and should be done, but it’s not natural.

    The positive approach does the opposite, but this requires a lot more thought, work, consideration, and effort out of her. Also, the payoff is long term, and not dramatically immediate. It would be an enormous benefit for women to take the long view, and accept the extra intensive labor involved as an investment in their future happiness. But too many women neglect this opportunity, while most other women remain ignorant of this.

    agree – many women are ignorant of this and need to be taught. in generational families, i have no doubt this was taught and taught well. we have to train ourselves to do what is not natural. this is not impossible, and it is a lot of work. but it is worth it because it is beneficial … for us, too.

    There are some women who really understand that men’s opinions of them are affected by whether their emotional contribution is either positive or negative. Women who understand this, will purposely elicit positive emotions in order to obtain favorable responses from a guy.

    women who understand this have learned it (many times the hard way).

    It should be intuitively clear to the reader that faith and trust are central elements of a successful relationship. I believe faith and commitment are the answers to the women’s questions of uncertainty. Yet many women continue to shit test, etc., and force men to emote, long after marriage, which obviously is a lack of faith. I mean, he’s living with her, paying all her bills, fixing all her stuff, sleeping with her every night and dishing out regular passionate orgasms… He has given up all opportunities to lay other women, just to be with her in a proper relationship. Once a woman proves herself worthy of his commitment, and he has chosen her, the book is closed in his mind. There is no going back. No reconsideration. Period. Forever. He knows his decision. This is how most men are, concerning marriage. All the evidence to believe that he loves her is there, yet, it still isn’t clear to her that he is in for the long haul. That is why I say that shit tests and forced emoting are evidence of a lack of faith.

    “the book is closed in his mind. There is no going back. No reconsideration. Period. Forever. He knows his decision.”

    because he is logical and rational. this is to be expected. it’s how men are.

    “It should be intuitively clear to the reader that faith and trust are central elements of a successful relationship. I believe faith and commitment are the answers to the women’s questions of uncertainty. Yet many women continue to shit test, etc., and force men to emote, long after marriage, which obviously is a lack of faith.”

    as i explained at Spawny’s … i do not believe shit tests are a lack of faith. they can be, but in general, i do not believe they are. i believe they are a result of the nature of women.

    can women learn to manage this better? well? absolutely. but it’s learned. and it’s learning to do something that goes against their nature. that doesn’t mean their nature is wrong or that learning something against their nature is wrong; it simply means it is.

    Ladies should be warned that this lack of faith and trust, evidenced by continual shit tests and forced emoting, will start rocking the boat, and if continued unchecked, the relationship will eventually capsize. This problem is greatly exacerbated when women who cannot elicit sufficient emoting to their satisfaction from their men, then turn to their sons, neighbors, and other men in their search for an emotional response to confirm their status. Moreover, women who go overboard with the shit testing and forced emoting signal themselves as faithless, low-class, unworthy partners.

    again, i disagree with the blanket statement that it’s a lack of faith and trust. i’m not saying she’s not responsible for her behavior; she absolutely it. i’m saying i do not believe it’s generally a lack of faith and trust. i believe it’s her nature.

    a woman who goes to the extreme of carrying it this far probably has other issues.

    The Almighty made humans (not only women) with two natures, and then gave us the choice of which one to conform to. The feral, ‘flesh’ nature, or the regenerated identity in Christ which acts out of faith.

    “Your beauty should not come from outward adornment such as braided hair or gold jewelry or fine clothes, but from the inner disposition of your heart, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious in God’s sight. For this is how the holy women of the past adorned themselves. They put their hope in God and were subject to their husbands, just as Sarah obeyed Abraham and called him lord. You are her children if you do what is right and refuse to quiver in fear.” ~ 1 Peter 3:3-6 (NKJV)

    love that verse – the very first one i taught to my daughters when they were preschoolers.

    yes, God gave us the choice to choose. but i do not believe that shit testing is always feral. sometimes it is necessary to determine who can protect us and who cannot.

    In other words, women should learn to develop a sense of self-awareness and exercise their personal moral agency. Every woman has the penchant to rebel from their lawful male authority and it started with Eve. If a woman knows this, then she can address it whenever these feelings come up.

    absolutely.

    for a woman to address things when the feelings come up actually takes a long time to learn and a lot of training – probably more for some than others. because it’s not natural. our emotions and being emotional is innate. it’s our nature. and that part of our nature is neither good nor bad – it’s what we do with it that makes it either good or bad.

    A man and a woman in conjugal union should share the same heart and mind, and be pulling in the same direction. Regardless of how high a level of commitment is shown by the man, the partnership is doomed if one partner is constantly dramatizing, and creating emotional tension and uncertainty, just for the sake of nursing their own faithless doubts and insecurities.

    absolutely. and this is true in reverse – regardless of how high a level of commitment from either one or the other, the relationship is doomed if one is constantly pulling it apart.

    can shit tests be a result of insecurity and lack of faith? sure. but i do not believe that is always true. is it mostly true for some women? probably. i think that would need to be determined individually.

    The choice is pretty simple. A woman can either (1) support the man she chooses, make him emote positive emotions, and he’ll cherish her for life, or (2) shit test him and tear him down with negative emoting, which will make either him or her eventually leave.

    those are some pretty polar extremes. a woman who supports her man and makes him emote positive emotions can also shit test him occasionally. i think there are levels of shit tests – they are not all huge and dramatic, so that might be something that needs to be defined more clearly.

    however, all women are emotional – it’s our nature. we all shit test on some level – it’s our nature. but we can learn to manage and curb the negative and we can learn to create the positive.

    also … as a side note – i do know how challenging it is to live with someone who is either always extremely emotional or always can be tipped toward being extremely emotional. my Aspie-Girl is also bipolar, and we’ve been dealing with this 24/7/365 for 18 years. every day i work on this with her. every.single.day. how does she recognize the emotion building up? how does she manage it? what can she do before, during, after? it’s continuous. even in the middle of the night because she often wakes up ‘off’ and needs help to get back to level.

    to her credit, she is light years from where she was. it’s a very slow process, and we break everything down and build it back up again. her life is hard, but as i’ve told her over and over, yes, God allowed her to have all these things, but He also made her smart enough to manage them. training, brain development, and many other things come into play.

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  6. copperfox3c says:

    This is a good read, with some nicely interwoven Red Pill principles.

    I think much of the problem you describe with women overly negatively emoting lies in the fact that we are not properly teaching our girls and young women anymore. They don’t have strong father figures or grandmas teaching them how to interact with boys. Instead, they just have feminism telling them to be aggressive and confrontational. It is a recipe for this kind of disaster.

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  7. Ame says:

    I have been reading some novels by a non-Christian author where she has dealt with differing themes of feminism. One novel was set in the late 1800’s in England where a woman was on the ground floor of the movement to give women more rights through giving them a right to vote. The novel i’m reading now is of a woman in the 1980’s who has this insatiable need to prove herself to such an extreme she is completely blinded by truth and reality. While I think this author is pro-feminism, she is actually showing how bitchy this character is by holding onto her lies. I don’t think the author intends to make this point, and I’m guessing the novel will end with a compromise of some sort between the woman and a man. But it is painting an interesting picture.

    In one of her novels the question was asked why can’t a woman have her world revolve around her, and that seems to be the basis of all of feminism. They want life to revolve solely around them, individually, so they have engaged the masses in an effort to force that to happen.

    The reality is, though, that NOTHING in the world ever solely revolves around only one person, regardless of whether they are male or female. this world is simply not all about ‘me.’

    There was this ‘movement,’ for lack of a better word, several years back where women i knew were taking a year off to focus solely on themselves. The philosophy was that they had given their lives to their parents, their career, their husband, their children, but they had never taken time just for them. So they decided they ‘deserved’ and had ‘earned’ a year off to focus solely on themselves … and they often couched it in that all-consuming, all-encompassing phrase of needing to ‘find themselves,’ either for the first time … or again after being a wife and mother. Though I knew quite well some who chose to do this, I never bought into it. Because … again, life is just not all about me.

    And this is where I think faith does come into play … that God didn’t create us to be the center of our own worlds. Rather, God PURPOSEFULLY created us for HIS purposes and HIS glory to accomplish HIS will for our lives. We are not happenstance. We are not flippantly thrown here on earth.

    I admit this also raises many questions … for example, I was an ‘oops’ baby that caused my parents to get married. Does my life still have purpose? Was I intentionally created with a purpose? How about all those unwanted children in the world? How about those babies who are bred simply to be used in cult sacrifices? I have more questions than answers, and for many I just have to believe that God is God. Period.

    When a woman begins to believe the lie – and from the beginning women have been easily manipulated to believe such lies … even living in a totally perfect environment Eve was manipulated to believe a lie – at some point her thinking needs to be stopped, or it tumbles out of control like a snowball rolling down an endless mountain. So where does it end? Where does she finally just stop? And once she stops, how much sludge based all in lies has she accumulated along the way that she will need to rid herself of – and not only rid herself of, but face the consequences of the choices she made while believing such lies?

    Yes, faith does come into account. And while it absolutely does come into account, and it should, it does so within and perhaps, despite, our basic, or base, nature.

    Again, I do not think all shit tests are bad, but they can certainly easily and quickly snowball into something disgusting and destructive very quickly.

    An interesting unspoken, and certainly (i’m quite certain) unintentional, point in these novels written by a non-Christian author is that these women have no source of Absolute Truth to tap into in order to have a plumb-line, a foundation, something to draw from, something to go back to, something to base their whole lives upon, something to compare what they are seeing to what is actually true to determine Truth. Therefore they keep forcing these issues that are, essentially, created in their own minds, totally ignoring even the truths and reality confronting them like a slap in the face.

    As Christian women, we have the Word of God to go back to. And we need to do so continuously because our ‘flesh’ demands one thing while the Truth demands another – which is true for all Believers. for even the apostle Paul said in Romans 7, 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

    So we all, but speaking to women in the context of this post, need to acknowledge that our ‘flesh’ will want what is not good, or right, or Truth. When we can accept that base, that foundation of our humanity, then we can begin to look at the rest of who we are and how we act and think and behave and philosophize, etc, and have a plumb-line, a foundation, a source of Truth from with to compare everything in our lives and to which we can go to determine where we stand in relation to such Truth.

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    • larryzb says:

      Originally there was equity feminism which was concerned with getting equal rights under the law for women. This included not merely the right to vote but also equal property rights. This was not a bad thing, although there are those who condemn even this type of feminism. In the 1960s, feminism was hijacked by women such as Betty Friedan, Bella Abzug and Gloria Steinem. This hijacking of feminism has produced what we have today which can be correctly called radical or gender feminism. This corrupted feminism causes enmity between the sexes and that is destructive. As well, such feminism today espouses and promotes both abortion and lesbianism.

      What few people are aware of is that radical feminism has its roots in the writings on the family of Friedrich Engels (of Marx and Engels). Other bloggers have opined that communism would be impossible without feminism and the resulting attack on men as the head of the nuclear (traditional) family. Some years back, around 2005, I read the book, The Gender Agenda, by Dale O’Leary. She exposes the link back to the writings of Engels in modern feminism.

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      • Ame says:

        that is all very interesting.

        we sometimes think that what we know, or how we perceive what we think we know, is simple … yet the deeper we dig, the more complex it becomes.

        it’s shocking how much these people transformed culture.

        if women would take some time and just think about it, they’d realize how much power they have, and have always had in some form. they’ve wielded it to create something ugly … which ties into the OP.

        we have so much we can do … it’s much more productive to use what we have to produce beauty and good than ugly and destructive. what is it in us that draws us to the ugly and destructive rather than the beauty and good.

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  8. larryzb says:

    @ Ame:

    Several years back when the Dr. Laura (Schlesinger) radio show was still on the air, I use to listen now and then to her program. She would field calls from women on relationships. Dr. Laura would then give sound pragmatic advice to the callers. During the back and forth, the women callers would often say “yes, but . . .”. This was where the callers would be letting the listeners know that the rational portion of their minds could see, grasp and appreciate the worth of Dr. Laura’s insights and advice but their emotions or the emotional part of their minds stood in protest to that advice. The sad fact is that many women are conflicted internally. It seems that many women endure an ongoing tug of war between their reason and their emotions.

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    • Ame says:

      Dr. Laura had a treasure trove of great wisdom and advice.

      It seems that many women endure an ongoing tug of war between their reason and their emotions.

      absolutely. i totally agree. we have to consciously pull away from our emotions to see reason … and yet, i don’t believe we’ll ever understand or comprehend the rational, reason, and logic of a man – or be able to use them in the same way as a man … and likely never as effective as a man. as Wayne said in the OP: It is well known that men are rational, and women are emotional. Just as men prefer to deal with issues using reason and logic, women prefer to deal with life from an emotional standpoint.

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    • Stephanie says:

      Loved Dr. Laura, Larry!!! I used to listen to her even as a little girl (well under age 10) because my mom listened to her and had her on fairly often.

      She’s still available on Sirius XM and online (you can hear her Call of the Day for free).

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