The Round Table of the Manosphere

In his latest post, Sometimes the Customer is Wrong (December 20, 2017), Cane Caldo described the fractured and isolated state of the male community, and lamented,

“Immigration, minority criminality, and white male apathy really are serious troubles right now. They are problems which are too big to be ignored in the meantime, and we each need to do our best to combat them as we can.”

Cane also points out that exclusion and isolation are the most prevalent weaknesses in male fellowship. However, exclusion is an even greater deterrent to women, if and when implemented. He describes this as follows.

“As far as I can tell there is really only one acceptable way to punish women, and that is exclusion. All mankind are social creatures and will suffer from exclusion, but because women are more sociable and more dependent they will more keenly suffer when left out. This makes exclusion more deterring, and thus more instructive, for women.”

Since social exclusion, for women, is a more powerful deterrent than it is for men, it follows that this can be a point of strength for men. For example, men can be quite comfortable in isolation, especially while working, or practicing a hobby, for instance. Thus, the ‘walking away’ part is what makes Dread Game a very effective tool in managing the drama created by a frantic female. But the problem is, humans naturally prefer the immediate comforts of spiritual adultery over the suffering of atonement, and women are obviously much weaker to this temptation than men are. So with some women, as soon as you walk away, she will seek out an orbiter to take up the slack in her Moxie, and there are ten back-up men waiting to swoop in to ‘rescue’ her from your ‘coldness’, ‘neglect’, and ‘abuse’. To this, Cane responded,

“Exactly. To even begin to address it, we must decide around what to have solidarity.”

I propose that the solidarity should be based on the shared purposes of us men, and the goals we set to achieve those purposes. So here I suggest a few shared purposes upon which to build solidarity. [Eds. note: I may add to this list, on the occasion of further developments.]

Men’s Shared Purposes

Our shared purposes are yet to be clearly defined. But I think it would be beneficial if we would all agree on the following purposes.

  1. The Manosphere is to spread the Red Pill Word, and to instruct and encourage other men in building Red Pill frame of consciousness, and developing Game.
  2. Men should accept other men, and offer them the basic forms of respect that comprise the unspoken code of honor among men. (There is more on this point, further down this post.)
  3. Specifically, men should give other men a decent respect by not being an orbiter to their wives or girlfriends. Other men should zero out orbiters for being traitors, and encourage those women involved to either remain true to the man they have chosen, or else, end the relationship clearly and decisively before hitting the marketplace.
  4. More specifically, men need to practice more solidarity by cooperating towards the enforcement of some much needed discipline, when appropriate. In other words, stop or deter the White Knighting expressed through the indulgence of women on the hamster wheel, or while they are having a pity party. Let women seek other women for mutual commiseration. (BTW, men should never seek a woman for emotional support, unless you want to get canned. Hope you already know this.)
  5. Men should never favor, date, or screw hard-core feminists. Instead, give them a social drought which might make them think twice about their life-decisions. (See Roosh for more on this point.)

Readers please discuss and suggest/add addendums.

Roadblocks to Solidarity

So far, at least three roadblocks have come up (that I have seen) that will need to be addressed before men can achieve a critical mass in solidarity. [Eds. note: I may add to this list, on the occasion of further developments.]

  1. Logistics
  2. Infighting
  3. The Need for Acceptance

These will be briefly described here.

1. Logistics

Cane ended his post by reinforcing the exigency of man-to-man fellowship.

“But none of [these problems] will be resolved–or even meaningfully combated–unless and until men band together into significant, genuine, geographical, and exclusive communities.”

This statement received a lot of discussion in the comment section. Commenter djz242013 said,

“I think most of what prevents this is logistics. People live spread apart and drive everywhere. Two hour commutes are not uncommon. (In cities,) The people you live near are extremely unlikely to share any significant beliefs with you if you are at all Traditional. Physical closeness is a necessary prerequisite for real community forming in my experience. (To wit, the only “real” community capable of exclusion that I’ve ever been a part of was in college, with the roommates I lived with and saw every day.) People you see at church often drive 30+ minutes, and maybe from the opposite direction. The barriers to community are structural. And we’re all trained from birth to be lazy.”

The fact that Red Pill men are few and far between is a great challenge to our strength at this moment in history, but it is important enough to deserve our concentrated effort in developing our social lives to include this. So I urge my readers to identify any Red Pilled men who live within their vicinity, and to make an effort to meet with them at least once a week.

Hebrews 10:24-25 [Emphasis mine.]

24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.”

2. Infighting

I don’t know how many times I have seen a good comment thread devolve into petty insults and infighting. Most of the bickering is about things as stupid as definitions and personal values/viewpoints, and those involved in these skirmishes seem to be easily piqued. On this topic, I want to share with my readers something I have learned, which I hope will be insightful and inspiring.

For the past three years, I have had many international students from Indonesia, which is predominantly a Muslim culture. During this time, while I was exposed to Muslim culture, I learned that it is not wise to judge any man according to, or with prejudice against, his religious beliefs.

Refraining from being critical of another’s faith is not done merely to acquiesce to political sympathies or even to maintain the peace (although it does), but rather, it is because the act of arguing against, and challenging those religious beliefs through a logical argument will rarely, if ever, entice a man to agree with you, convert, or change his ways. This is because those beliefs of faith run to the core of the man’s identity, and are not to be trifled with, out of respect to the man’s free will. Thus, such arguments are foolish and futile, simply because one’s faith is an issue of the heart, and NOT the head/rationale.

But in addition to the vanity of not being able to convince the man to your liking within an argument, it is also quite certain that you will offend the man, foolishly reveal your ignorance about his beliefs, and possibly lose any foundation of rapport that you might have formed with him. We do not wish to overtly offend any man, but to build rapport with him, “that I might win some to the gospel of Christ” (see 1st Corinthians 9:19-23).

The takeaway point here is that mutual humility and a shared purpose are the keys to any successful interaction, and that logical arguments over specific beliefs are likely to be divisive.

In view of my example, Islamic culture is very much concerned with maintaining a sense of honor, so I make a point to keep my interactions with them formal, yet sincere and warmhearted. For example, whenever one of them does poorly on an exam, I shake my head and say, “Ahhh… My son! You need to work harder!” They take this supposed ‘sonship’ to be an honor, and at the same time, they find it hilarious.

Continuing on with the story, last year, I returned to my own country, to my own church (Evangelical Protestantism), and what did I find? Men doing the exact same foolish things I learned not to do with my Muslim students – arguing, judging, and challenging each others beliefs, without the generosity of acceptance – not agreement, mind you, which is rarely achieved, but mere acceptance – consideration and respect for the heart of the man himself, regardless of his beliefs.

2nd Corinthians 10:4-5 [Emphasis mine.]

For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ”

Acceptance does wonders for casting down frustrating arguments.

3. The Need for Acceptance

When I come to the Manosphere, I come to meet other men to discuss the important issues of the day. These men are MGTOW’s, PUA’s, agnostics, atheists, ‘born again’ Baptists, Calvinists, Catholics, Mormons, Orthodoxians, Unitarians… and I round out the mix with my imperialistic, self righteous evangelical flair – quite a motley crew! But I choose not to consider these differences to be of considerable import. I check my pride with my password, and log into the sphere penitently. I am willing to be corrected as much as I am willing to correct others.

Likewise, I don’t show up empty handed, but I bring a treasure from my inner chamber, which I have painstakingly prepared for the presentation – a sacrificial offering of my time, will, and energies. I recognize that other bloggers and commenters are also doing the same, and I accept (but maybe not always agree to) their input for the honest and thoughtful rejoinders that they are.

I respect each man for what he brings to the table, whether small or great, and for his purpose, purity of reason, and semblance of honorable conduct. I also respect other men in general, because that is what men need to be recognized as men. I respect others because I respect myself, and this should also signal that fact, and thereby attract respect from others. As a principle, I respect each man because he is made in the image of God, and I believe in faith, that God will do miraculous things in our society, and our individual lives, through the sharing of ideas and our testimonies, and through our collective strength.

[Eds. note: I hope that my readers will not mistake these sentiments to be merely vain hopes or virtue posturing, but that you’ll see the intrinsic value and benefits of maintaining these attitudes when interacting with other men.]

Conclusions

Within the Manosphere, we men meet on terms of the intellect, and the will, for the sake of common interests and purposes, and we find a fulfillment of the heart and soul through our interactions.

God, in his infinite and ironic wisdom, became a baby to reveal himself to mankind.

1st Corinthians 1:21

For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

Similarly, God chose the Pick Up Artist (PUA) to reveal the bitterly glorious Red Pill truths to humanity – those PUA’s who were considered to be arrogant, amoral, cad pricks in the eyes of men, but who were humbly seeking and knocking on the door of Truth in the eyes of God.

1st Corinthians 1:27-31

27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 29 that no flesh should glory in His presence. 30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— 31 that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the Lord.”

In the same manner, God shall use this motley assortment of Red Pilled Cads and Dads in the Manosphere, to shape a new concept of human ontology to be implemented as future societal norms.

Take it as inspiration, if nothing more.

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16 Responses to The Round Table of the Manosphere

  1. Gunner Q says:

    What I’m waiting for is a resurgence of Christianity. The Church’s collapse paved the road for all of today’s perversions and the Church’s recovery shall herald their defeat. All the infrastructure and cooperation you talk about is the Church’s natural workload.

    It’s hard to do nothing at the present but if Christ doesn’t lead then we can’t follow. Sometimes we’re expected simply to do the best we can with what we have, just as Christ’s family did by fleeing to Egypt after his birth.

    “Similarly, God chose the Pick Up Artist (PUA) to reveal the bitterly glorious Red Pill truths to humanity”

    That was a glorious twist, the pimps of the Earth rediscovering patriarchy after the fallen Church came close to erasing it without anybody even noticing. Truth is always the last man standing.

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    • Sigma Frame says:

      Organized religion may not step up to this task. So then it’s left to the men who are aware of the problem to do something about it. Fortunately, Christ is not limited to the Church’s ordinance.

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  2. earl says:

    I respect each man for what he brings to the table, whether small or great, and for his purpose, purity of reason, and semblance of honorable conduct. I also respect other men in general, because that is what men need to be recognized as men. I respect others because I respect myself, and this should also signal that fact, and thereby attract respect from others. As a principle, I respect each man because he is made in the image of God, and I believe in faith, that God will do miraculous things in our society, and our individual lives, through the sharing of ideas and our testimonies, and through our collective strength.

    I was recently reading a book by Archbishop Fulton Sheen who outlined so well the biggest flaw of Marx and Communism was thinking that man didn’t have an immortal soul and as such a man was basically useful until he was deemed useless….then chucked out. It was by all accounts the most objectifying ethos around. We often think feminism does this…but feminism came out of Communism. When you have that mindset then things like abortion (fetuses-children are useless), euthanasia (old people are useless), no fault (your spouse is useless), casual sex (my pleasure is important, you are useless), race (you aren’t my ethnicity, you are useless), nation (you aren’t from here, you are useless)…on top of hating an entire sex because you think they are useless…you get a lot of problems. The main one is lack of respect because you don’t think they are in the image and likeness of God.

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    • Sigma Frame says:

      I was recently reading a book by Archbishop Fulton Sheen…

      Stated well, Earl. What was the title of that book?

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      • earl says:

        Life is Worth Living.

        I believe the book is a collection of what he said on his TV shows so it wasn’t just about Communism only. There was one (or perhaps more) where he addressed Communism.

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    • Boxer says:

      Merry Christmas Gentlemen!

      but feminism came out of Communism

      You should write an article about this and post it someplace. I’d be glad to host it on my blog. It might lead to an interesting discussion.

      Anyway, here’s one of my favorite communists:

      https://www.marxistsfr.org/archive/bax/1908/08/reply-feminists.htm

      As an aside, I think feminism in the abstract is as old as women (it’s just feral female nature); though, I’m inclined to blame those faggy lake poets for its modern incarnation. Read some of those guys someday. Literary romanticism is basically worship of women.

      Best,

      Boxer

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      • earlthomas786 says:

        There’s certainly some elements of feminism that go back to the serpent whispering in Eve’s ear that she could be her own god. The parallels I see with communism is how both only view men for their utility and then basically discard them when they aren’t useful anymore.
        Unless there was somebody who did it before…a lot of my theory also comes from Lenin being the brainchild of no-fault, convincing women that work for the state is better than being a mother, and state sponsored abortion and day care. Other than hormonal contraception which came later in time…a lot of what makes feminism go came from Lenin.

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  3. earl says:

    Men should never favor, date, or screw hard-core feminists. Instead, give them a social drought which might make them think twice about their life-decisions.

    One of the worst bits of advice I’ve seen in the ‘sphere…is the rationalization to ‘pump and dump’. That’s not going to solve hardcore feminism…in fact it keeps it going as they are still giving those women something to affirm their disastrous life choices.

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    • Boxer says:

      One of the worst bits of advice I’ve seen in the ‘sphere…is the rationalization to ‘pump and dump’. That’s not going to solve hardcore feminism…in fact it keeps it going as they are still giving those women something to affirm their disastrous life choices.

      It also damages men’s psychological states to do this. Playaz like Heartiste will deny this. They are liars. To his credit, Roosh V. has discussed it a little bit.

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      • earlthomas786 says:

        I think it was called ‘burnout’. I’d like to think some men on their version of the carousel could eventually see the error of their ways and get off…but that usually depends on if they see the cause and effect better. The parable of the prodigal son comes to mind.

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  4. Gunner Q says:

    Boxer @ 7:08 pm:
    “It also damages men’s psychological states to do this. Playaz like Heartiste will deny this.”

    earlthomas786 @ 7:18 pm:
    “I think it was called ‘burnout’. ”

    I think it starts at the point where they need variety to stay interested in sex. Most low-N guys are happy with one-and-done if Mrs. “One” gives a care about her primary job.

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    • Sigma Frame says:

      I think it starts at the point where they need variety to stay interested in sex.

      I think you are describing the addictive phase, which is also when the most damage occurrs. I would say burnout really kicks in after a man has totally exhausted his ability to experience novelty, and has seen enough variety that he realizes all women are kinda the same, not one is perfect, each woman is different in her own way, but they all have flaws and peculiar weaknesses, and he has to choose from among that selection.

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  5. Sigma Frame says:

    I’d like to think some men on their version of the carousel could eventually see the error of their ways and get off…

    I think promiscuity forces men to swallow some Red Pill, and they (might) eventually come to realize that it is, in fact, a false god, an idol, or “woman worship”, as many have stated. Of course, we know that getting Red Pilled involves some anger and bitterness for most men, and all of the above could contribute to the “burn out” experience. Also, they tend to become more familiar with their own lusts, and learn to control them, or let them go.
    Promiscuity for women, on the other hand, doesn’t appear to contribute towards their Red Pill awareness, but only heightens their level of denial. I think there are a small number of female carousel riders that come to see the Truth, but they sacrifice their passion and purity in the process, and become hard hearted as a result, thus destroying their marriageability.
    I think this difference in what men and women need in order to arrive at the Truth is why guys like Roissy (Chateau Heartiste) often say, in so many words, that lotsa’ p*ssy makes a man shine, but too many c*cks are damning for women.

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  6. SFC Ton says:

    I dont buy into player burn out as commonly described

    Roosh was/ is a butt sore beta who bitched a lot about how “racist” White girls didn’t want to sleep with him. Of course he burnt out. He wasn’t suited for the job and he made getting laid the focus of his life. Seems to me that’s like anyone else getting burned out from a job they arent well suited for.

    However I know men who get laid like tile way late into life/ who never settle down but I wouldn’t call them players. Women aren’t their focus but something that comes with a life well lived.

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